No worries Damien your entitled to your week-end just like the rest of us....thankyou so much for your help...also l did download your noise psd but can't remember where to find it, can you tell me please, l haven't used it in ages.....Also do you think the hand is passable as l can't seem to blend the forearm and it bothers me some, maybe l have just been looking at it too long....again thankyou for your help....