S. Roberts

If I now understand, I need a better light for viewing PRINTS. I have good light for editing. Will this type of lamp accomplish the goal? https://www.solux.net/cgi-bin/tlistore/galileo.html 

I had to special order my DVI-D cable. So I'll be on hold for a bit.

Here are a few images with different tones. Do my images look cool or warm on your monitor? These files were edited in RAW, then some editing done in PS, however no color toning was done at this stage. Thank you.

I will post a few then in this thread tomorrow. Thank you, Damien. 

Not at all. Honestly, I thought I had too much light.

I'm thinking of getting a lamp to use when viewing prints. The monitor image doesn't change in a perceivable way with the window open. So I'm thinking it's the way light is distributed in the room, and maybe wall color (ochre -yellow). I can't change the warm wood everywhere. 

Let me ask, do my images look warm or cool on your monitor? 

Maybe? I'm getting a lamp, so we'll see. Several people see the color problem with me. In the room. With and without daylight. 

This hurts. I can't find a DVI cable yet. I may order one online. Thanks for your support. I'll report back. 

(I misread your question.)

Comparison between print and monitor is different. With the window open there is more light in the room, the color issue (too yellow or too red) is minimized with the increased brightness. The color mismatch from the monitor is still apparent.

In the photos above with each lab print next to my monitor, I opened the shutter to allow more daylight to fall on the print. My lights are also on. In the side-by-side lab print photo on my desk, it was only artificial light. 

ProDPI comes back with, usually a little more yellow (warmth) than my monitor. Maybe even more saturation.

This last batch was particularly pink-ish. (Red or magenta.) Which got me looking closely at my monitor and color. 

Here is the monitor next to the Miller's lab print. I understand it's warm, but it's closer to my monitor. Hoping the DVI cable solves this, else I'm looking for a new monitor. 

Here is my monitor with the ProDPI lab print. (If ProDPI is giving me correct color, where does that leave my monitor? 5000k right now, can't make it warmer.) I'll post Miller's next. 

I used a different lab for rush shipping, Miller's as opposed to my usual ProDPI. It was the same file. Miller's is so much closer to my monitor, still a bit yellow, but wow. This adds to my confusion.

When I line up photos from ProDPI, they chronologically become warmer. The last set was quite noticeable. I've reached out to them. 

(Miller's left, ProDPI right)

15 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

it's fairly normal for it to be in the teens for those screens.

This is great new. 

16 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

mightn't be a bad idea, just before your next calibration (which will be when you get the DVI cable) to find the "Reset factory defaults" button in your Dell's menu, to make sure Contrast is at default.

I hope to report back tomorrow - well, my tomorrow anyway.

I tried waiting until night to calibrate so I eliminate any ambient daylight. Is that necessary? I tried it tonight and an 18 on the Dell got me to 79 in the Spyder software. (I wanted to see what it would take to get to 80 as an experiment. 80 being the low end you suggested. ) It seemed like a big jump as 14 on the Dell got me to 62 in the Spyder during a daytime calibration just trying to greatly reduce ambient daylight. 

I should add, there is a contrast adjustment which I've never changed. It's set at 75 and it does change brightness. Any thoughts on contrast? 

14. 

Each light has 980 lumens x 6 is 5,880 lumens in the room that is 16' x 9' (4.8 x 2.7 m) and standard 8' (2.4 m) in height. It's so bright to me. However, a few lamps? I can't put in any more overhead.  

How about painting the yellow to a white or light gray? 

I'll try to pick up a DVI cable tomorrow. I'll report back. 

My mistake, the lights are 4000k, and 980 lumens, each. Here's a pic of my lights and my space. 

Hi! Signing up for RAW, and directed to post here regarding having a calibrator Spyder5 but prints not matching. ProDPI - prints come back warm. Within the Spyder calibration software, I'm at 61 brightness, 2.2 gamma, and 5000K. I use a Dell U2412M monitor in a room with closed windows and 6 - 4200K lights overhead. My monitor is connected to my computer via a VGA cable. I don't know what else to say.

Thanks!

Thank you, Damien. Off to sign up.

Okay, I'm excited for levels. Do I still need to submit a folio for that?

Also, how will I learn to mask with such gorgeous blending if I don't take your masking class? Is that technique in levels?

So, what I gather is that I need your masking class? Maybe the levels class too?

Yes (er, I hope so)! So, I re-did levels layer and masked the other way. I used checked my masking by using the test levels layer with the aggressive blacks to make sure there was no banding in the blown out area. Here is that mask.

Here is the masking.

Other than the detail toward the bottom of the curtain, yes. The window is blown. 

There was no banding evident with the SOOR. It looks smooth, if that's what you mean by no detail.