inoriz Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Hello Damien, Thank you for your time and patience. I recently installed NIK just out of curiosity and fell in love with the Color Efex Pro - Dark Constrasts filter. However, rather than relying on NIK, I'd like to know how I can achieve the same effect from hand editing. This first picture is the original/starting point (only edit done was to convert to B&W) This second one is with the NIK filter run through and then taken down to 50% (how I like it) And the last is my final edit - I just added some levels on baby and the surrounding areas. I'd like to know what NIK did to bring out the 'flaws' in the picture. I love how the skin is not overly 'perfect' and the filter brought that out without having to painstakingly 'dodge and burn' every bit i want enhanced. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Whoa. You must NEVER convert to black-and-white by making your photo Grayscale mode. That's really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Bringing out the extra texture would be equivalently done in Photoshop with a USM or High Pass layer, I assume. A pixel layer. And as such, you might as well just use the NIK filter, since the effect on the workflow is the same - it would be a pixel layer either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I knew i did something wrong! How do you convert to b&w? I don't want to rely on NIK. Where can i learn how to do a pixel layer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 http://www.damiensymonds.net/training.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 Which one, Damien? I was in the levels and still in the print sharpening one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 Just realised it could be the print sharpening one....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, inoriz said: I was in the levels Then why the heck are you asking how to convert to black-and-white??? Did you even read the class? 4 minutes ago, inoriz said: Which one, Damien? The Layers & Masks one, for learning about the different layer types. 3 minutes ago, inoriz said: Just realised it could be the print sharpening one....? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 Hey Damien, i was in the levels class quite some time back and i did take notes. I just realised you mentioned "converting to greyscale". I didn't do that. I created a new black and white adjustments layer so it wasn't destructive to the original. My terminology in the original post may have caused some misunderstanding. I just called it "convert to b&w ". I'll check out the layers and masks class. Should i go for the premium version to learn this type of editing specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 The files you uploaded here were grayscale mode. How did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 3, 2016 Author Share Posted May 3, 2016 I'll look again when i get home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Damien they were definitely adjustments to black and white layer. Sorry i took so long to reply - been stuck at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Sorry - the last pic was just me playing with the levels layer. Ignore the last picture. I don't know how to delete it from the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Keddie Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 OK, but the files you posted here are untagged grayscale. How did that happen? Can you include your document profile indicator in your next screenshot? (And please use the Snipping Tool to create your screenshots.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Christina, thank you for your reply. Currently i still do not have internet at home (we moved 3 months ago into this house we built and it's been a pain to get them to connect the phone line.) So i will have to screenshot on my computer, save to usb, connect usb to laptop, then use my phone tether to connect to the internet. I'll get the profile. Hang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Do you save your web images using the Save for Web and Devices feature, or plain Save As? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 I run my own action to resize them, then save as -> jpeg. the action only resizes it. nothing else. (Well i add my watermark too but in this case i didn't) here's the screenshot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Can you show me a screenshot of the Save As screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 Yes i can but that may have to wait till saturday night/ sunday because I'm off to work again. Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate it. If i could quit my job i so would! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 It sure is mysterious. Everything you've shown us indicates that your files should be in RGB mode ... yet we can't deny the evidence in front of us - the files you first uploaded are definitely Grayscale mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoriz Posted May 5, 2016 Author Share Posted May 5, 2016 How can i see if it is greyscale or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Well, just re-open one of the files you uploaded here, and look a the Document Profile section in the bottom left corner of Photoshop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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