Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hi! I couldn't find anything about Damien's retouching services but I wanted more info about it... Price range, etc. Basically just background tweaking and possibly a face swap since they were squirmy, uncooperative kids. This picture is the most presentable image I got and even this isn't particularly great... Mom said it's fine if the little guy wouldn't smile because that's just how he is in pictures but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Okay, I posted once about this but more in the context of asking what your retouching services are etc. This post is primarily to show you a few images from the session to get your take on whether they're salvageable or if I should give the mom back her money. This was a mini session so I only need to give her a few images if I can make any presentable. She wanted one of her 6 month old by herself and then one of the two kids to print for their dad for Valentine's Day. The kiddos kept messing with the background, the little guy refused to sit up straight, pretty well refused to smile, all 3 were moving non stop the entire time...it was awful! The first photo is probably one of the better ones in terms of focus and this is the one I've edited so far that I can even show. The others are ones I would like to salvage or be able to face swap, background smooth, etc. Bear with me and I'll explain my thoughts with these... Image 1- I like the two girls but the little guy is looking sideways...thinking I'd like to swap with little guy's face from either 2 or 3... (also, I like the older sister's hand placement in 2 and 3 better than in one. Wondering if it's possible to take the boy's face from #4 and swap it in for his face in #5...I know perspective is different and he's looking away so it might not work so I'm just asking if it's possible. I spent an hour today being blown away when scrolling through your edits and restorations so I feel like it's possible, even if beyond my scope. You can also send me a quote for how much this would cost if you were to do it for me! These are resized jeep's but I have all original .nef files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Forgot the one I edited which was supposed to be the first one that I referred to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha LaRue Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hi Elana, I had to shift your posts around so that they were together and in the same spot. Damien is not currently taking on editing work, but he can try to help you learn how to fix these yourself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Elana said: Wondering if it's possible to take the boy's face from #4 and swap it in for his face in #5 No. 5 hours ago, Elana said: Image 1- I like the two girls but the little guy is looking sideways...thinking I'd like to swap with little guy's face from either 2 or 3... (also, I like the older sister's hand placement in 2 and 3 better than in one. It might be possible. I think you'd need to swap most of the baby's body, and all of the boy. That would probably be more workable than just a face and arm swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Okay, thanks... from looking at these photos, is there one that you think would work better for a swap? I've already spent way too much time looking at these and I'm frustrated for sure...might rethink the things I shoot to not include toddlers right before nap time. Looking at these again, the boy's face in #4 is probably the nicest but the way the girls are posed in #1 is still the best. If I swap the baby and the boy, then all the other images have big sister's arm right in front covering much of the baby. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, Elana said: all the other images have big sister's arm right in front covering much of the baby. Thoughts? Sorry, I must have misunderstood your original comment. I thought you said you preferred that arm position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 okay, this is an attempt to just replace more of the boy and I'm obviously not done as there's still lots of masking to do and things I haven't even attempted masking yet (I've got a baby in one arm and dinner on the go) but do you think it's worth attempting this or is it a believable swap so far in terms of positioning, size, etc? gah...not letting me post the picture...says I can't upload more than 14.65 mb and my picture is 865 kb which I thought was less than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Significantly less, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 so why won't it let me post my picture? It is a combined total of 14.65 mb for the whole thread maybe? is there any other way I can send it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This sure is odd. Can you send it to me via this page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sorry for the confusion...I like the big sister's left arm in the first picture but the right arm looks nicer in other photos...in the first it looks chopped off at the elbow but I like that she's not covering so much of the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oh, I understand now. Are you aware that you're basically making every attempt to sabotage your own photo here? The more you find to be critical of, the less chance you have of producing an image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Sent them, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 ah...touche. You're right. I'm just especially anxious because this was the first paid shoot I did for a stranger...granted only $45 but I still want what I give her to be worth that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't know why your image wouldn't load, sorry. You're right, it's very small. I think it has good potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Here's what I have now...I want to make the background more uniform without looking like the kids are cutout...any suggestions? Plus there's some areas that are just weird because the red from the hearts was reflecting on the the white, wrinkles in backdrop etc. What do you think of the masking, etc? I swapped most of the boy and the older sister's right arm. I'll send same way as before since it's not letting me upload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 It's showing good promise so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Okay thanks! Just not sure about the best way to work on the background... I read your gradient post but we'd lose the hearts (which isn't a deal breaker but they contribute to the Valentine's theme...). Should I just do some cloning? Levels adjustments? Thanks for your feedback so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Yeah, just patient cloning, I'd say. Probably at low opacity, so it blends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Okay, I'll continue in the morning (11 pm here). Thanks!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hi Damien... I think I sent you my edited copy this morning. Did you receive it? A friend suggested adding shadow but I have no clue how to do that and make it look realistic. Am I fine to leave it shadowless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You STILL can't post photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elana Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Not when I tried this morning but trying again now. This was from my phone and it worked... Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 It's looking a bit unnatural around the boy's hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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