newbornphotog Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 This is my first year doing Santa Minis so I haven't yet been able to take a picture of Santa beside a Christmas tree... Unfortunately, I won't be able to do that until the session begin in November. So I don't have an exact picture to post that is like this one. I'm not sure if you can use just any picture on a wooden backdrop or not? If so I have some with babies in them. I really would love some tips on what to try in photoshop to achieve this look. This photographer calls it the "Rockwell Effect" and she told me when I met her that it was an action that they had created and that they brush it off the skin. I have included a link of 2 of the photographers photos that doesn't have the effect applied and 2 photos that do.. I really like how this effect gives it a magical storybook look. I have noticed it changed the white in Santas beard and all the white clothes to a tan. Thanks for your help. without the effect picture 1.) https://www.facebook.com/daphnesportraitdesign/photos/a.10151793695327704.1073741836.342037307703/10152112535757704/?type=3&theater without the effect picture 2.)https://www.facebook.com/daphnesportraitdesign/photos/a.10151793695327704.1073741836.342037307703/10152112535872704/?type=3&theater with effect- https://www.facebook.com/daphnesportraitdesign/photos/a.10151793695327704.1073741836.342037307703/10153002152247704/?type=3&theater with effect https://www.facebook.com/daphnesportraitdesign/photos/a.10151793695327704.1073741836.342037307703/10152927171132704/?type=3&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I'm so sorry, I can't see those links for some reason. It's possible the photographer has their page set to only be visible to people from her own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 No, uploading other people's photos is NOT cool. Find links to them that I can see, please, or find other examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Sorry, I was unable to link each photo individually through her website. Instead it would bring you to her entire Santa mini gallery. Hopefully these links will work. These are both with the effect. In person Santas beard and the white trim to his suite was white. https://www.google.com/search?q=daphne+portrait+santa+minis&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=Q_QgQI3sw6Us_M%3A https://www.google.com/search?q=daphne+portrait+santa+minis&client=safari&hl=en-us&biw=414&bih=628&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGxvfggN7OAhUGXR4KHSHPCW4Q_AUIBCgA&dpr=3#imgrc=iDhRrEeVtREqEM%3A Edited August 26, 2016 by newbornphotog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 No, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Since I am unable to get a link for an individual picture I posted the link below to the photographers sample santa gallery. Most of them in the slideshow have the affect applied but the one with the little boy hugging santa doesn't and their is also one towards the end. Thanks Damien http://clarksvillesanta.daphnesportraitdesign.com/?load=html Edited August 26, 2016 by newbornphotog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 It's called "Tone Mapping". Google and YouTube searches will find you plenty of hits. It may also be called "Tonemapping". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 Thanks so much I am going to try to take some pictures soon of my kids and christmas tree setup. I have googled tone mapping and will try it with them. Everything I have found says you need a plugin to achieve the look. One of the plugin names I keep reading about it Photomatix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Yes, I think that's popular. But I think you should try this one first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Thanks for all of your help I went to my studio today and took a picture of my youngest with a simple setup hoping that I could use it to practice this editing technique used in the pictures in the links above... I have downloaded the Nik Collection you recommended but I'm still having trouble getting the desired look. Could you possible use the image below that I took and see what you can come up with? One of the big things I liked about the editing was that any white in the image changed to a tan/vintage look. I am so far unable to achieve that... I really appreciate all of your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Yes, I'm happy to have a go, but you'll need to give me a raw edit with much more light in the shadow areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Is this better? I know I don't have the complete setup exactly like hers... I do want mine to be somewhat different. But I will have my tree decorated more, presents will be under the tree and santa will be in the picture as well on the session day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 I took the saturation down some in this picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Hmmm ... do you mind sending me the raw file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Sure... You should have it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Whoa, no, that's not right. I want the actual raw file that came out of your camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 It will end with ".CR2" if you have a Canon, or ".NEF" if you have a Nikon, or ".ORF" if you have an Olympus, etc, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 You should have the correct file this time As you will see I had cropped the picture and done some cloning to the left side to extend my backdrop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 So, earlier, when I said: 2 hours ago, Damien Symonds said: you'll need to give me a raw edit with much more light in the shadow areas. ... you didn't actually go back to the raw file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 I had cloned and cropped in PS then I saved it as a PSD. When you said lighten the shadows I went back to that file... I thought the PSD was the raw file. Obviously it's different Sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha LaRue Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, newbornphotog said: I had cloned and cropped in PS then I saved it as a PSD. When you said lighten the shadows I went back to that file... I thought the PSD was the raw file. Obviously it's different Sorry Glad ya'll got that cleared up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, newbornphotog said: I had cloned and cropped in PS then I saved it as a PSD. When you said lighten the shadows I went back to that file... I thought the PSD was the raw file. Obviously it's different Sorry Right. So try again for me. On the actual raw file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 12 hours ago, newbornphotog said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbornphotog Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 So I'm a little confused... I may be wrong but I don't think you can save an image in photoshop as the original raw you have to save it as JPEG, PNG, Tiff, etc. So that would make me unable to clone and fix the back drop and still give you the raw file. However in LR I am able to increase the shadows which is the main part I think you are wanting done and I can save it as the CR2 (original) file. I am far from a photoshop or LR expert so please let me know if I am wrong... I am trying I have sent you the CR2 file with the shadows lightened. Thanks Again for you help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, newbornphotog said: So I'm a little confused Which is why I beg you to take The Raw Class before too much longer. It will make everything make a lot more sense. 2 hours ago, newbornphotog said: I don't think you can save an image in photoshop as the original raw you have to save it as JPEG, PNG, Tiff, etc. Correct. That's why your raw processing must be PERFECT before moving on to Photoshop work, because there is no going back. 2 hours ago, newbornphotog said: I have sent you the CR2 file with the shadows lightened. Because you only sent me the raw file, not the accompanying xmp file, I can't see what you've done. But that's ok, I just need you to save a jpeg version of what you've done, and post it right here in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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