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[Damien Symonds]

I still think the issue is hinted in the second screenshot. I'm very worried about how they're handling profiles.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

So I was poking around on their Facebook page and there was a post that explained with their HD printer that they are able to read your profile in your file and print from that. They say it is the most accurate. I just don't understand. Also some of the biggest names in photography use them and say they are the best printers. I must be doing something wrong. 

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

So it Adobe RGB and sRGB an ICC profile? 

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

If those are common ICC profiles, why are people all hung up about getting the ICC profile from the printer? It seems like an easy thing to just set it to sRGB. 

[Damien Symonds]

Those are image profiles, yes.  They're not print profiles.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

So please help me understand this. No matter the settings on my computer, it doesn't change the data written on the image file. Correct? So no matter how I'm viewing it, technically the image file doesn't change even if my screen gets colder or warmer. Am I understanding this right? 

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Also I feel like I'm giving up on my Macbook screen for now and am going to try and get my Dell monitor right

 

[Damien Symonds]

1 hour ago, jeanbrunsonphotography said:

So please help me understand this. No matter the settings on my computer, it doesn't change the data written on the image file. Correct? So no matter how I'm viewing it, technically the image file doesn't change even if my screen gets colder or warmer. Am I understanding this right? 

Correct.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Ok so then the goal is for me to still get my screen to look like the print I got from my lab. Correct? And so I need to change my calibration settings so that I am seeing what they are printing?

[Damien Symonds]

Yes, but not the Graphi lab.  We can't trust them.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Ok thanks for sticking with me on this. So if srgb is an image profile but not a print profile, what are examples of print profiles? Also what do we think about just created a calibration profile for my computer to match their printer for when I order from them?

[Damien Symonds]

Print profiles are the profiles that GOOD PROFESSIONAL labs provide to their customers.

For soft-proofing.  https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/03/bit-about-soft-proofing.html

1 minute ago, jeanbrunsonphotography said:

Also what do we think about just created a calibration profile for my computer to match their printer for when I order from them?

FUCK NO.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Ok I so I hear you loud and clear. I need to stop using Graphi. The problem is I have a client who placed an order with me last week and I need to honor that and order it. I can't switch now, get new product samples, etc. before I do that order and go back to them and redo  the wall art. 

[Damien Symonds]

Have you spoken to Graphi about this problem?

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Yes. I couldn't talk with anyone in technical support. My rep just kept saying if your screen is calibrated what you see is what we print if you embed sRGB. I asked about how but if my screen is 5000K the image looks completely different than if it was at 6500K, so how you can tell me what I see is what I get if my screen can be all over the place. She just kept repeating herself. 

[Damien Symonds]

Were you able to speak to a tech?

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Yes. He basically just talked at me about why temperature that you're viewing your prints matters. I tried to tell him I understood all of that, and that the problem is that the temperature I set my SCREEN to matters. He agreed, and told me to set it to Native, but then showed me a document that said the standard was 5000K, then he said the standard in US is 6500K and I should set it to that. When I said he just told me three different things and which one should I do, he didn't really answer. He said all three at different times, and multiple times. 

[Damien Symonds]

No more Graphi for you.

[jeanbrunsonphotography]

Slightly off topic. I took your RAW and Bridge class and you talked about editing in 16bit. But then I should print in 8 bit. How do I convert back?

[Damien Symonds]

Image > Mode > 8 bit

https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/02/16-bit-to-8-bit.html