misi525 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Hello, I've been dissatisfied with my prints for the last few months. I edit on a desktop with an Asus PA248Q monitor. I calibrate with a Spyder 4pro, monthly. I would say my editing style is clean and I like my colors to match what I photograph. On my monitor they look vibrant and well saturated but my prints are darker and not as colorful. I'm stumped at what to do. I print with McKenna Pro in the US. I've worked with their gal about with calibrating my monitor and my prints matching my files. They are almost always within the acceptable range, a few times they have needed to bump contrast and saturation. I'm really stuck. Please advise me on what to do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Hi Misi, are you following my instructions here? 33 minutes ago, misi525 said: On my monitor they look vibrant and well saturated but my prints are darker and not as colorful. You need to understand that your prints are ALWAYS right. Whether you like them or not, they are correct. So, if your screen doesn't match your prints, it's your screen that's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 I do use your instructions, I have them printed out & use them as a guide. The date at the top says 12/23/2014, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Does your printed version include the troubleshooting steps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 It does. I looked into signing up for the new raw class. The fee is $79, is that the discounted price for previous participants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 The last time I calibrated was after a window 10 update. It totally threw off the color of my monitor. I uninstalled and started from the very beginning, that was a month ago. Now I'm ready to do the monthly recalibration. Should I just do the regular recalibration, or start from scratch? And once I recalibrate, will all my edited images that clients haven't ordered from need to be re-edited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 15 minutes ago, misi525 said: The last time I calibrated was after a window 10 update. It totally threw off the color of my monitor. I uninstalled and started from the very beginning, that was a month ago. Now I'm ready to do the monthly recalibration. Should I just do the regular recalibration, or start from scratch? If in doubt, always start from scratch. Including this. 15 minutes ago, misi525 said: And once I recalibrate, will all my edited images that clients haven't ordered from need to be re-edited? I guess that remains to be seen, doesn't it? Depends how bad they are. By the way, please don't wait a moment longer to take the Sharpening Class. If you have clients, you need this class, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've calibrated and it's worse now than before. I've done it twice and am only getting 93% SRGB when I usually get 98 or 99. I have a few questions. After I calibrate and get this screen do I leave the calibration device on the screen when I adjust my sliders? And do I leave the room dark? That's what I've been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Now my target brightness says 89 not 120 but my current is 90. Not sure how that happened and if it matters. Also when the calibration device is profiling it's taking like 15 minutes in the past its been much quicker. Should I be concerned there's an issue with my Spider? it's a couple years old. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 hour ago, misi525 said: I've calibrated and it's worse now than before In what way? 1 hour ago, misi525 said: After I calibrate and get this screen do I leave the calibration device on the screen when I adjust my sliders? I'm so sorry, can you elaborate on this question? Which sliders? 1 hour ago, misi525 said: Now my target brightness says 89 not 120 but my current is 90. Not sure how that happened and if it matters. Oh yes, it matters. 90 is excellent. If you were at 120 before, that was definitely part of your problem. 120 is always too high. 1 hour ago, misi525 said: Also when the calibration device is profiling it's taking like 15 minutes in the past its been much quicker. Should I be concerned there's an issue with my Spider? it's a couple years old. Oh, good question. Yes, all calibrators fail eventually, although we like to get more than a couple of years out of them. It shouldn't take so long, that's for sure. To check, you'd need to calibrate another computer with it, and see if it does the same. Do you have another computer in your house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 When I say it's worse, I mean my colors are off. The last family session I took the family had shades of rust on. When I pulled up their photos they looked washed out and looked like they were wearing a shade of pink. When I asked about the color sliders, it was in relation to this screen. At this point, I go into my monitor and adjust the red, green and blue so those graphs are within the skinny bar. Also, on this screen you can see where the target brightness is 120 and my current is 90. After I adjusted the colors and clicked continue the next screen is where it takes so long when I run the calibration device to profile see the second photo. In the second photo the green bar doesn't advance. Shouldn't it complete that bar 100%? And see how it says target brightness is now 89%. Is that okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, misi525 said: When I say it's worse, I mean my colors are off. The last family session I took the family had shades of rust on. When I pulled up their photos they looked washed out and looked like they were wearing a shade of pink. Remember, what you "think" or "like" or "remember" is completely irrelevant. We can only discuss the direct print to screen comparison. How does your screen compare to your prints? 3 minutes ago, misi525 said: When I asked about the color sliders, it was in relation to this screen. At this point, I go into my monitor and adjust the red, green and blue so those graphs are within the skinny bar. Also, on this screen you can see where the target brightness is 120 and my current is 90. After I adjusted the colors and clicked continue the next screen is where it takes so long when I run the calibration device to profile see the second photo. In the second photo the green bar doesn't advance. Shouldn't it complete that bar 100%? And see how it says target brightness is now 89%. Is that okay? Are you remembering to press the "Update" button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I've ran the calibration 4 times tonight and have had my husband and daughter look over my shoulder in case I was forgetting something. I've never had this much trouble, usually recalibrating goes pretty smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Dumb questions about the update button, on the second screen I didn't make any adjustments to my brightness since it was so close, therefore didn't click update. Should I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, misi525 said: In the second photo the green bar doesn't advance. Shouldn't it complete that bar 100%? So it does advance? If you remember to press the Update button? You really need to calibrate another computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misi525 Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 Going to run it one more time to see if it'll advance and I'll try to calibrate my daughter's computer tomorrow. Thanks for your help, I'll post my results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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