Datacolor SpyderPro instructions

[Sndrkstr]

Hello Damien,

I just ordered the Datacolor SpyderPro which you recommend in the "What to buy" article. Which one of your Calibration instructions should I follow? The SpyderPro is not in the list. Thank you so much for all the information you provide. I really appreciate it. ( and please excuse any funny language because English is not my native language)

Greetings, Sandra

[Damien Symonds]

Oh Sandra, I'm so sorry, I haven't yet saved up enough money to buy the SpyderPro, so I haven't been able to write instructions for it yet

[Sndrkstr]

Oh, do not be sorry about it. I totally understand and I needed a while to press the "buy now" button.  So I should just follow the instructions for a previous Spyder model? I have a windows desktop PC and a Eizo color edge CS2731.

[Damien Symonds]

Oh!  Well, the Eizo has its own "Color Navigator" software.  I have a ColorEdge here too.

Do you know if your version of Color Navigator is compatible with your new Spyder?

[Sndrkstr]

Oh, I did not know that and of course I have no idea if it is compatible . How can I find out? And does that mean that I will not nee the spyder?

 

[Sndrkstr]

I will have to go to a family meeting in a minute but I will return tonight and check my messages. (it is noon here now).

Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. And I am thinking about taking your classes but I am not sure if my english is good enough and my PS will be in German. 

[Damien Symonds]

Oh yes, you do need the Spyder.

The Eizo software works with a range of calibration devices to achieve the high quality colour representation that Eizo is famous for.

But I haven't heard if Eizo have recently updated the software to provide compatibility with the newest Spyders.

Your English is fantastic!

[Sndrkstr]

I had to research..  I installed the colornavigator 7 and it is compatible with Spyder Pro.

The spyder will be in the mail on Tuesday and I will try to calibrate then.

And now I really have to go.

 

 

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Software and Drivers Download

Software：ColorNavigator 7 - Color Management Software

【Description】

[Ver.7.2.3]
- CG2400S supported
- Spyder Pro, specbos 2501 supported

[Damien Symonds]

Yay!!

[Damien Symonds]

Has the calibrator arrived yet, @Sndrkstr?

[Sndrkstr]

Hello Damien! Thanks for asking!

Yes, the Spyder is here. But I am still waiting for my prints. The lab is slow. But I will let you know when I have them.

[Sndrkstr]

Hello Damien! The prints are here. The screen is warmer (more yellow and magenta) and has more contrast compared to the prints, the colors are more vivid. The prints look flat in comparison. Is this only because of the sreen/paper difference or will it change to the better through calibration?

What are the next steps now? Do I have to do anything with the ColorNavigator program or do I only follow your calibration instructions for a Spyder calibrator (Spyder x2 Elite) ? 

I could not find any information on Auto brightness for my screen. So I guess it does not have this and I do not need to bother about it.

Tnanks for your help!

Sandra

 

[Damien Symonds]

Definitely use ColorNavigator.

[Sndrkstr]

Hello Damien!

I calibrated and the prints were very close to the screen. I was happy.

Now I had new pictures . Same screen, same lab.. The prints look horrible. Too cold/blue, too dark. Where did it go wrong??  Where do I start now? 

[Damien Symonds]

How odd.

Can you check the colour space? https://damiensymonds.net/art_tscs000.html

[Sndrkstr]

sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (8bpc)

 

[Damien Symonds]

Great.  And your previous prints were too?

[Sndrkstr]

The lab told me to set my monitor to 

• 90 - 120 cd/qm 
• 5.000 kelvin (D50) 
• Monitor-Gamma 2,2 

 After calibrating mine was 83 cd/qm  6500k   Gamma 2.2

 

Should I change it to the lab wishes? They also told me to use their ICC profiles.

Juist checking the previous prints.

 

[Sndrkstr]

The previous prints had the same colour space

 

[Damien Symonds]

3 minutes ago, Sndrkstr said:

The lab told me to set my monitor to 

• 90 - 120 cd/qm 
• 5.000 kelvin (D50) 
• Monitor-Gamma 2,2 

 After calibrating mine was 83 cd/qm  6500k   Gamma 2.2

 

Should I change it to the lab wishes? They also told me to use their ICC profiles.

Juist checking the previous prints.

 

Oh shit.  Never calibrate to D50.  You did the right thing by calibrating to 6500K.

That's terrible advice.  Better try a new lab.

[Sndrkstr]

No other choice available since it is the only lab which works with the "selling software" I use for all my volume photography (kindergarten/pre school). And the previous prints were fine and came from the same lab. I ordered so many prints there and now, with the new monitor and the first time calibrating a monitor, it goes wrong. I thought now I am getting it all right.

I don't get it...

For other prints I use nphoto in Poland. Never had problems.

[Sndrkstr]

And if I have it set to 6500k and the lab wants 5000k would the pictures not be way too yellow instead of too blue ? Or am I thinking in the wrong direction?

[Damien Symonds]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/askdamien/posts/4143619009031601

[Sndrkstr]

Thank you! I understand but I am still tied to that lab for the kindergarten/school photography.

[Sndrkstr]

So for that lab I change the monitor to 5000k and then the prints should be ok. Right?

I will try! Thanks for your time & your help.