Mary Burgy

Any suggestions for the blue look where the flash hits a dog's eyes?  

That makes me feel better.  Tomorrow I will use the flash though since I will be in the shade.  I ordered the gels so I will cross my fingers they fix my problem of shooting in the shade!

I was under the impression it was meant more for outdoors.  That is why I got it... for the power.

Thanks for both of your help.  Hopefully I can order the gels and it will fix the issue when shooting in the shade.

Well I just paid $750 for the Godox light... so I am kind of stuck with it.

Could you determine if my flashes were firing too warm?  Did the test show anything?

If in shade, do you agree I should buy the gels I linked above?

Okay.  I will aim to flat light and less power then and hope for the best.  I was just attempting to expose for the bg and not blow the highlights and as a result needed more flash power.   maybe Brian can determine if one flash is cooler.  

3 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

No, her flashes aren't suspect.  It's just that she was shooting in light MUCH colder than 5500-6000.

Damien will I be in trouble if I shoot with it in the area I showed above?  I can’t get a fix in time.  

Adding this link so I don't lose it.  It may help but I am not going to buy until we figure it out.

https://flashgels.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50

Okay... hope this is what you were looking for.  I just use the jpegs.  Let  me know if I need to save the RAW instead.  Used the Godox 600 bare for these.

The last two I just tried my Canon 430 exii flash for comparison b/c I need to use something at my shoot on Wed morning.

Did spot first and then eval - Left on AWB 1/200 and ISO 100  Canon 24-70 lens

I am shooting canon 24-70 or 70-200 for most shots.

This guy shoots in the shade too and I know he doesn't use gels.  He typically uses an AB and barely does any work post.  Does he have this issue?  I am just trying to see what some pros that I am familiar with do.  

I plan to do all of this... I did find a video that explains the issue here.  However, I won't have a chance to research gels  and how to attach them prior to my shoot.  (and get them here)

I went to check out the area today at the time of day I will shoot (morning around 9) and my only option is to shoot in the shade.  For a family of 5-6, I really want to use the flash at least as fill.  Here is the area.  Can I get away with it?  Most areas are backlit... There is one spot I can have them facing the sun and be in the shade, but I am limited.  I need to figure this out.  After work, I can try and do some test shots tonight and maybe use the flash that is the coolest.

Honestly, will a non photographer notice this issue?  
I agree, I want to fix it moving forward, but I don't think most eyes would realize this "horrible" issue.

Maybe I could just aim to flat light them so the light hits them evenly?

I didn't have my light... I was just scoping the area with my kid after school drop off.

https://fstoppers.com/lighting/ctb-gels-might-be-whats-missing-your-outdoor-portraits-144614

Now that I think about it, I have used a plm indoors with the godox 360 and I cut all ambient.  Normally the wb is warmer than 5700. 

I have a cheap godox softbox and this one (from pics above) I got from Tim Payne (runs an ocf Facebook page).  It’s over $100 but not a fancy brand.  

Will do.  I was under the impression you should use one and stick to it for ease of editing later.  For example it is easier to sync settings if they all had the same initial wb.  I just got back home and have kids that keep me busy but will get some test shots done as soon as I can.  Thanks for your help.  I have a gray card that I can use that has black, white, and gray.  I had those cards at one point too if I can dig them up.  

Brian -  I don’t think my flash produces blue light.  It seems warm.   I know in Raw you adjust wb so I didn’t think it mattered. However does the wb your camera is set to impact the color of the flash in relation to the ambient?  Could it be as simple as me using auto wb or flash wb?  I didn’t think it mattered but that could be where I am going wrong.  

That would be awesome if a meter could do that.  The ones I have seen only dealt with power and f stop.  

Flash is normally 4-7 ft away.  Depends on pic.  

I manually set it flash power normally by using a gray card.  I set my ambient settings and then bring in flash.  Have subject hold up gray card and I adjust flash power and distance until histogram spike is in center (pic of gray card that confirms exposure)

Damien will only accept white balance from the WB printout sheet.   However, he is saying if the flash hits it a cast hits and it can’t be used.  Normally I use daylight or cloudy and keep it on one.  I don’t pay too much attention since I shoot Raw for editing and we adjust in ACR.  The issue is coming from setting the wb on an area that wasn’t warmed from the flash and and then as a result warming up the people a lot.    I have a godox 360 (used for Santa) and a godox 600 (used on dogs).   Both were used in a med sized soft box (3.5 x 2 ft approx).   When I took the dog photo I set my wb using the wb sheet (which was impacted by flash too).  Damien said the photo was much too cool.   

Brian - I seem to be getting negative feedback from Damien when I use my flash outdoors.  I am fully comfortable with it indoors when I kill the ambient light.  However, when I am using it outdoors, he is stating that I am creating horrible mixed lighting.  I know tons of people use flash and I don't hear of them having this issue.  I am to the point of being scared to use it and I have another shoot coming up.  It creates a warming effect and he says you can't pick WB from an area that the flash hit b/c of the cast.  I use my flash in a softbox.  I do have a blue filter but I think that would block a lot of light having it inside of a softbox, if I could even rig that.  These are unedited photos (jpegs SOOC) from two recent shoots that apparently I messed up.  I don't look at them and think they are horrible, but I don't see things that he does.  I do struggle though with the WB b/c of the many results I get using the clicker due to the flash hitting different areas.   Any help is much appreciated!!!

Am I just trying to even out the colors due to the lines?  Is this better?  Anything else?

Thank you!  I will post my updates to my levels thread.

Fingers crossed... It's about as good as I can get.  I know she would want that double chin under her removed some....