S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hello! I received prints only to find horrid banding in the whites. I've printed several back-light photos and never had a problem until today. Is this something I can remedy through adding noise? Is there a better solution? Here is a 700 crop, the jpg I sent for print and for fun, a cell shot of the print. I print at Pro DPI. I have the Spyder5. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 May I see the SOOR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I will post it in a few hours when I'm back home. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Thanks. I need to see if there was any degree of Photoshop editing to that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Hi Damien, Here is the SOOR. I appreciate your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Oh, right. Yes, significant editing. When I compare your SOOR to your final edit, I can see the slight light halo around their heads. Can you see it too? That's where the banding happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes, I added a levels adjustment to bring down the window brightness (backlight). I can see the halo when I zoom in. It's a first and I shoot & print this set up often. 1. How can I fix it? 2. I can barely see a hint of banding. Is there something I can do to check for banding before I print? 3. Which class should I take to help? (I've done RAW.) Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 If you add a Levels layer to the print file, and pull the black slider across REALLY aggressively, do you see the banding appear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes. Wow. I can really see it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Great. So basically, your levels method should have worked just fine. The trouble was, you didn't allow it to go safely into their hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 That would stop the banding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yep, for sure. The problem is that the banding is occurring right where the edge of your mask is, yes? Your mask fell off just before the hair started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 I am referring to the several diagonal lines, in a squiggle sort of pattern just above the halo (poor masking). Maybe banding is the wrong word. It stands out in the picture of the printed photo, and I can see it in the file when I pull the blacks aggressively in the levels layer (as you suggested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 These may show the variegated color on the print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Ok ... so this is a question I should have asked earlier. Exactly how many of your adjustment layers are affecting that background area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just the one levels layer. I put the *test levels layer on the top, pulled the blacks aggressively, then turned each layer below on and off. The banding occurred with the levels adjustment layer use to bring down the whites and masked into that window backlight area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Ok, so if you add that same test Levels layer to the SOOR, and pull the black slider in aggressively, was there ANY detail in that area? When I try it, I can't see any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 There was no banding evident with the SOOR. It looks smooth, if that's what you mean by no detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Well, it's "smooth" because there is literally no detail, right? It's completely blown out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Other than the detail toward the bottom of the curtain, yes. The window is blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Right. So for banding to have occurred where you showed me, it must have been caused by your masking. So, Alt-click on the mask of the levels layer you used to darken the background, and show me a screenshot of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Here is the masking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yep. Now do you understand the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 It should look like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Roberts Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes (er, I hope so)! So, I re-did levels layer and masked the other way. I used checked my masking by using the test levels layer with the aggressive blacks to make sure there was no banding in the blown out area. Here is that mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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