MelissaL Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'm getting really frustrating with seamless paper - I love the look but hate the banding and color issues. Am I doing something wrong??I always need a fill layer in the final for print image to avoid any of this artifact and I just find myself not wanting to use the paper. Can you assist? Here is a classic sample of the SOOC and then once I run a simple workflow the banding just goes crazy, but you can see - it is in the original as well and would need dealt with. Would it do the same if I just picked a color and painted the wall vs. paper?? I'm shooting a Nikon D4 with a Sigma 1.4 Art lens and Einstein lighting with a large PLM diffuser (I've seen the same with prior modifiers such as my Octobox). I also typically have a reflector in use for these shots. I would love to not HATE seamless!!!! Thanks - Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samantha LaRue Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Have you seen this article yet? http://www.damiensymonds.net/preventing-banding-in-backdrops/ The key to working with these backdrops is to do little to no editing on them in PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Do you shoot raw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 I do shoot RAW. I had not seen that article so I will check that out as well. So would I edit my image and then re-open the SOOC and merge them??? What is the best way to handle it if you do want to shoot the seamless? Curious - will a painted wall behave the same? I've heard other people say that they don't have this issue when they use a real wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 47 minutes ago, MelissaL said: I do shoot RAW. Phew! And do you see banding in the SOOR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I do - here is a screen shot of the image pulled up in ACR. It's there - not sure what you can see in a screen grab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 It is almost impossible for banding to exist in a SOOR, unless you BADLY under- or over-exposed the image, which you didn't do here. So this indicates a problem with your screen. Is it an iMac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I have a brand new 27" MAC with the upgraded retina display - LOL, there better not be an issue with my screen! Maybe what I'm seeing in the RAW file isn't banding. On the image above, the left side of the image looks like there is some funky color variation going on. After processing - you can see from the first post that this area was a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Yeah, it's banding. Ok, this is what I need you to do. Open the SOOR in Photoshop, then go to Edit>Assign Profile. Assign your monitor profile to the image instead of sRGB, and tell me if the banding gets better, or worse, or stays about the same, or stays EXACTLY the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 OK - stupid question but which of these is my monitor? I went to the Apple site to see if there was any info on what to select and couldn't find anything. Is it just Apple RGB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 No, it's likely to be one of these. Can you remember which is the current one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 OK - I can't find any information on which profile is correct so I flipped it to all and none look good. Here is the SOOC and then I screen shot with each of those profiles and none seem to change the background issues, as best as I can tell. This SOOC image has also not been adjusted at all - this is as shot. The original example of this image I had brought down the exposure on the side of her face a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 here is the 1st profile - crap! Let me screen shot smaller, it won't let me upload them. I was trying to stay large so you could see better. The above image is the current profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hoping you can see these OK. I'm not noticing any major difference in that left side of the image, which is where I was seeing some of that discoloration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Ok, so you're seeing banding in the background, no matter which profile you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelissaL Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 it appears to me that I am - now I assume that what I'm seeing is technically called "banding". In this image, it's the upper left area mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Well, there's good news and bad news. The good news is that there isn't banding in your photo. The bad news is that your screen is a pile of poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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