Michelle Gifford Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 My test prints look a bit blue compared to my screen. What do I need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Can you remind me which calibrator you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Spyder x pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Right. So are you on this page right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 9, 2021 Author Share Posted December 9, 2021 I got test prints from Miller's. They sent color-corrected ones and also some straight from my file to their printer. They look the same except very subtle differences. What am I missing? The blue is gone thank goodness, but I was thinking that the prints would look different for some reason if my calibration is off. Maybe it was just those few prints from the other lab and my calibration is good?? Anyway, my question is, in soft-proofing, the monitor doesn't look good at all (with the ICC profiles that Miller's sent), but the prints are good. What's that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Michelle Gifford said: I got test prints from Miller's. They sent color-corrected ones and also some straight from my file to their printer. They look the same except very subtle differences. What am I missing? The blue is gone thank goodness, but I was thinking that the prints would look different for some reason if my calibration is off. Maybe it was just those few prints from the other lab and my calibration is good?? This is great news. 3 hours ago, Michelle Gifford said: Anyway, my question is, in soft-proofing, the monitor doesn't look good at all (with the ICC profiles that Miller's sent), but the prints are good. What's that mean? Can you show me a screenshot of your soft-proofing settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Some photos it looks fine and others it sucks. Why does it affect the reds so badly? Screenshots in working CMYK and Miller's Perceptual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Did the lab specifically tell you to use Perceptual? NEVER use working CMYK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: Did the lab specifically tell you to use Perceptual? NEVER use working CMYK. They did. The ICC profile came with PDF instructions. I can't remember what I was working in before I swapped the profile for soft proofing. What should it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 No, that's ok. If they specifically said "Perceptual" not "Relative Colorimetric", then that's what you should do. It's definitely uncommon, but that shouldn't be surprising from stupid Millers. They certainly march to the beat of their own drum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 I thought you had no opinion on labs lol. now the one I picked and am happy with, you hate😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Anyway, the important question is, does soft-proofing make the reds look more like the print? Just now, Michelle Gifford said: I thought you had no opinion on labs lol. now the one I picked and am happy with, you hate😆 https://www.facebook.com/groups/askdamien/posts/4143619009031601/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: Anyway, the important question is, does soft-proofing make the reds look more like the print? @Michelle Gifford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: Anyway, the important question is, does soft-proofing make the reds look more like the print? https://www.facebook.com/groups/askdamien/posts/4143619009031601/ I haven't tested any reds from them yet, but am sending some asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Damien Symonds said: Did the lab specifically tell you to use Perceptual? NEVER use working CMYK. What profile should I be working in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Michelle Gifford said: I haven't tested any reds from them yet, but am sending some asap. What? I thought you said you had prints with reds in them? Reds that had turned dark? Just now, Michelle Gifford said: What profile should I be working in? https://www.damiensymonds.net/2014/07/proof-setup-working-cmyk-not-really.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: What? I thought you said you had prints with reds in them? Reds that had turned dark? https://www.damiensymonds.net/2014/07/proof-setup-working-cmyk-not-really.html No, just that the PROFILE showed yucky reds...no actual prints in red yet from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: What? I thought you said you had prints with reds in them? Reds that had turned dark? https://www.damiensymonds.net/2014/07/proof-setup-working-cmyk-not-really.html So it should be turned off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 It should be turned off while you're editing, yes. Just turn it on to check colours before printing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 I am requesting test prints from WHCC now, since reading about Miller’s. I’ll update once I get them. I did send the red family for a test print in addition to the same ones I sent to Miller’s for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Gifford Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 These are the instructions given by WHCC lab. Am I fixing to screw things up? I swear on my life this is getting way more complicated than I can deal with right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 No no no no no. Thank you for asking. https://www.damiensymonds.net/why-do-some-print-labs-tell-you-to-change-your-photoshop-color-settings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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