Michelle (SpyderXPro)

[Michelle Gifford]

What if only SOME of the prints seem blue, and others look good? And one of my test prints where the family wore red, all of them look dark red/maroon.

[Damien Symonds]

2 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

What if only SOME of the prints seem blue, and others look good?

That's the WORST, isn't it?  Are they all from exactly the same print batch?

3 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

And one of my test prints where the family wore red, all of them look dark red/maroon.

That's likely to be a soft-proofing issue, not a calibration one.  I'd ignore that print at this stage.

[Michelle Gifford]

If by print batch you mean the same order from the lab, yes.

21 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

That's likely to be a soft-proofing issue, not a calibration one.  I'd ignore that print at this stage.

What do you mean here? You lost me.

[Damien Symonds]

26 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

What if only SOME of the prints seem blue, and others look good?

 

Just now, Michelle Gifford said:

If by print batch you mean the same order from the lab, yes.

Ok.  Then you'd better post the photos for me.

[Michelle Gifford]

The two of the girl in the white dress are the main ones that look blue. It's her dress that has a slight blue tint. The others to me look fine in print.

[Michelle Gifford]

This one may have a slight blue tint, but I think its the background...

[Michelle Gifford]

Skin tones look ok to me, especially the girl in the white dress, so if I were to warm these up, she will really look orange, won't she? I'm so frustrated because I am at a point where I have to deliver these pageant prints, the wedding, and the senior gallery. What's the quickest and most effective way to do this now?

[Damien Symonds]

So can you elaborate on the question for me?

Are you saying that the dresses in these two prints look exactly the same colour?

7 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

 

[Michelle Gifford]

No, they don't. But both were WB'd with the sheet...

The pageant photo of the girl both with her mom and full length, her dress looks blue in my print, but not on monitor.

The wedding photo looks great in print...

Edited December 8, 2021 by Michelle Gifford

[Michelle Gifford]

I know you don’t like iPhone shots but this shot of the print taken with my phone one depicts what my eyes see with the blue dress. The second image is from my computer.

Edited December 8, 2021 by Michelle Gifford
added a second image

[Michelle Gifford]

The image is more blue than in real life, but it does show you there is a difference in the print and the monitor

[Damien Symonds]

11 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

No, they don't.

Good!

12 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

The pageant photo of the girl both with her mom and full length, her dress looks blue in my print, but not on monitor.

It's definitely a bit blue, so your monitor must be too warm.

[Michelle Gifford]

I'm so confused. Wouldn't ALL my prints be too cool if my monitor was too warm? Why would only some of them? So if I cool my monitor down, won't it affect the other prints that look good? 😫

[Michelle Gifford]

1 hour ago, Damien Symonds said:

That's the WORST, isn't it?  Are they all from exactly the same print batch?

That's likely to be a soft-proofing issue, not a calibration one.  I'd ignore that print at this stage.

I just read the soft-proofing thing. Why doesn't everyone do this from the start so they know what they are getting? Am I missing something? I didn't know this existed. How do I fix reds?? This gallery contains an older gentleman with terminal brain cancer, so I have to get this gallery out ASAP. 

this second image is a photo of the print. See the maroon?

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[Damien Symonds]

Have you got your lab's soft-proofing profile?

[Damien Symonds]

24 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

I'm so confused. Wouldn't ALL my prints be too cool if my monitor was too warm? Why would only some of them? So if I cool my monitor down, won't it affect the other prints that look good? 😫

I agree.  It sucks.  You need to find the best middle ground.

[Michelle Gifford]

11 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

Have you got your lab's soft-proofing profile?

I don't because I didn't know that was a thing, but I will be on the phone with them first thing in the AM.

[Michelle Gifford]

6 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

I agree.  It sucks.  You need to find the best middle ground.

Would middle ground right now for the red gallery to allow the lab to color correct, or just try the profile? I'm in tears right now over this red. It's more stressful than the blue! I did over 1000 Santa photos last week (which you know includes red) that I have to get out as well.

[Damien Symonds]

NEVER allow the lab to colour correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 minutes ago, Michelle Gifford said:

I don't because I didn't know that was a thing, but I will be on the phone with them first thing in the AM.

Can't find it anywhere on their site?

[Michelle Gifford]

7 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said:

NEVER allow the lab to colour correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can't find it anywhere on their site?

Not that I can see...it must be unavailable or hidden well.

[Damien Symonds]

Bummer.  Yeah, a lot of labs don't make it readily available

[Michelle Gifford]

I may have to change labs. Any recommendation? This is the only one I've ever used.

 

[Damien Symonds]

Sorry, I'm on the other side of the world from you.  I couldn't possibly make recommendations.

[Michelle Gifford]

Geeze. Looks like I'm in the market for a whole new lab. These people don't even offer their ICC profile anymore and suggested that I just allow them to color correct my images. Holy crap.

[Michelle Gifford]

Let me vent a bit, if that's allowed. So I am a member of several photography groups, many of which have photogs making $$$$ off their prints. When I mention calibration, they don't do it, and they allow labs to color correct. I also spoke to a few friend photographers here where I am. How is this the case that they are successful and produce great images if the right way to go is to accurately calibrate and do not allow the lab to color correct (which I agree with)? I mean why adjust WB or color at all if you're just going to allow the lab to decide what your prints look like? How are their prints beautiful if they are not calibrating? I'm beyond frustrated and really do not know where to go from here. I'm sitting here in tears over this.