Fuzzy Printing

[Lturner]

I have 2 images out of 20 that are printing fuzzy. This is a screenshot from ROES. They look just like they are printing.  I added the 2 fuzzy ones (1 & 2)  and 2 normal (non fuzzy) ones (3 & 4) for comparison. File sizes are all over 200 mb. All 300 PPI... color profile srGb. File properties are the same minus dimensions and file size. I have no idea why they are doing this? Any ideas? What am I missing? 

 

[Damien Symonds]

Have you actually printed them?  Or is this just what you're seeing in the ROES preview?

[Lturner]

Actually printed. 

[Damien Symonds]

5 minutes ago, Lturner said:

File sizes are all over 200 mb.

Can you clarify this?  Did you mean 200KB?

8x10 print files should be (usually) somewhere between 500KB and 2MB.

[Lturner]

No. 200 MB is the smallest one of the two

[Lturner]

The properties of one of the images printed perfectly. They are practically the same. 

Thanks for your quick response too! I really appreciate it.

[Damien Symonds]

You're not uploading PSD files to ROES, are you????????????????

[Lturner]

No, absolutely not. They are jpgs

 

[Damien Symonds]

Then why are you showing me PSD details?  They're irrelevant.

[Lturner]

I dont know what other specs i should be looking at. I wanted to be sure that the size and resolution were the same as my thinking is that that could affect the printing. But, I guess it is irrelevant because they are the same and those images are printing off. What else should I check? Prints came back from TinyPrints, Walmart and my lab looking pretty much just like they do in those screenshots. 

[Damien Symonds]

I don't understand the problem?  Click on the jpeg files that you uploaded, then show me those same properties screenshots.  Showing the file size, the dimensions, and so on.

[Lturner]

I don't know why I didn't do that in the first place. Sorry. It looks like the picture blew up. The good ones are all 7-9 MB and these are 18MB

[Damien Symonds]

Yeah, this is all wrong.  You can't just upload uncropped, unresized, unsharpened files, and expect them to print properly.

As I said earlier, your 8x10 print jpegs should be (usually) between 500KB and 2MB.

http://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html

http://www.damiensymonds.net/trainingsharp.html

[Damien Symonds]

Now, may I see a 100% crop from one of the "bad" jpeg print files?

And maybe one from a good one too, for comparison.

[Lturner]

Well, damn. I usually just run the image processor when saving and converting to jpg

 

good one: 

bad one: 

[Damien Symonds]

3 minutes ago, Lturner said:

Well, damn. I usually just run the image processor when saving and converting to jpg

That stops TODAY.  Have some pride in your prints.

Now that we're looking at the 100% crops, can you see the problem?

http://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/07/raw-noise-removal.html

[Damien Symonds]

PLEASE change your life: http://www.damiensymonds.net/training.html

[Lturner]

I can see the noise.

Ive taken RAW and levels...years ago. I'll do the print/sharpening class...hoping that'll help with output. In the meantime, will reducing noise in RAW and then editing fix this? I need to get these two files back to my client. 

[Damien Symonds]

I have no record of you in the raw class?

1 minute ago, Lturner said:

In the meantime, will reducing noise in RAW and then editing fix this?

AND resizing properly for print.  This is crucial.

[Lturner]

Maybe I just did levels then.....It was a while back....  I know I did something! 

[Damien Symonds]

Levels, yes.

If you'd taken Raw you wouldn't have made this tyro mistake.

[Lturner]

Point taken. Thanks!