chelseyhern Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I have a color munki that I use with my previous laptop and I am wondering if I can use it with my new Dell XPS laptop with a 4k monitor?
Damien Symonds Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Yes, I have no reason to think not. Which ColorMunki is it? The Display?
chelseyhern Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 Yes it is the Display. Thank you Damien I will use your instructions. 1
chelseyhern Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 I calibrated yesterday and the monitor is still over saturated. I have done some reading about this laptop and it seems somewhat common, which isn't good for photo editing. I am wondering which "dell premier color" I should be set to? Do you know if that would make a difference if I changed that setting and then calibrated again?
chelseyhern Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 I have also noticed that the images I have saved look different from the ones I have uploaded to FB. They are saved as sRGB.
chelseyhern Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 Here is one more screenshot of another image I edited and saved in PS and viewed. The coloring is different and also saved a sRGB.
Damien Symonds Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: I have also noticed that the images I have saved look different from the ones I have uploaded to FB. They are saved as sRGB. Ok, first things first: https://www.damiensymonds.net/png-file-format You said "uploaded to FB" but neither of your screenshots show me the comparison between Photoshop and Facebook. One is Photoshop and Windows Viewer, and the other is Facebook and Windows Viewer. May I see the direct comparison? 1 hour ago, chelseyhern said: I am wondering which "dell premier color" I should be set to? May I see a screenshot of that option setting?
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 I am sorry about that. Here is Facebook and Photoshop. They look the same, so it must be the Windows Viewer that is different. Why is that?
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 Here is the screen shot of the color option.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: I am sorry about that. Here is Facebook and Photoshop. They look the same, so it must be the Windows Viewer that is different. Why is that? Yes, that's correct. Windows Viewer isn't colour-managed. Chrome isn't properly colour-managed either. Firefox is the only browser to use.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: Here is the screen shot of the color option. Oh crap, this is really bad. I think it'll have to remain on "Vibrant (Full)". 1
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 That really does suck because I calibrated in "vibrant (full) and its super saturated and awful looking.
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 So I know you aren't for macs, but I spent almost the same amount on this laptop as I would have a macbook, should I look into getting one? What are your suggestions? I have thought about returning this laptop because of this issue. I have a 5 year old HP I had been using, but my monitor was going out...I never had these issues with that laptop.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: That really does suck because I calibrated in "vibrant (full) and its super saturated and awful looking. Where? You weren't looking at Windows Viewer, I hope? Remember, only compare prints against Photoshop, no other program will do.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Very relevant: https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/08/buying-wide-gamut-screen.html
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 Yes I am comparing prints to Photoshop. I will calibrate again in the morning and see if it gets better.
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 OK- I calibrated again this morning. My prints are a tad darker and the yellows are more orange, but there isn't as big as a difference as before, so that is good. Will I not be able to get them to match perfectly since I am using a laptop?
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 I will add my screen seems to be a bit cool when I compare another print that shows more of the sky. I am wondering if this could be the problem when I calibrate (see attached photo) the area where I am supposed to place the color munki is unusually small.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: OK- I calibrated again this morning. My prints are a tad darker and the yellows are more orange, but there isn't as big as a difference as before, so that is good. Will I not be able to get them to match perfectly since I am using a laptop? Unless your screen's brightness setting is already at 0%, then yes, you can fix the "tad darker" part. Calibrate again at slightly lower brightness. Regarding the yellows and sky, no, possibly not. But I'll be interested to hear if soft-proofing helps.
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 I forgot to attach this and I calibrated at 90 instead of 100 and I think it was 83, if I went any brighter it was way too off.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: I forgot to attach this and I calibrated at 90 instead of 100 and I think it was 83, if I went any brighter it was way too off. And? Is 83 good? Got a good brightness match now? 37 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: I am wondering if this could be the problem when I calibrate (see attached photo) the area where I am supposed to place the color munki is unusually small. This is annoying, but shouldn't matter, because once the calibration begins, the whole screen is filled with colour, isn't it?
chelseyhern Posted March 6, 2017 Author Posted March 6, 2017 It is at 83 now and I think it could be a tad brighter. And yes the screen is full once it starts.
Damien Symonds Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, chelseyhern said: It is at 83 now and I think it could be a tad brighter. No, put that out of your mind. Always better to err slightly low. Leave it where it is.
chelseyhern Posted March 7, 2017 Author Posted March 7, 2017 I think I have finally got them to match pretty well. THANK YOU! The only thing I am having issues with now is getting my display profile to stay the same. I used to have the Display Profile, but I can't seem to find the link anywhere to download it. I originally downloaded it from a old Facebook file of yours.
Damien Symonds Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 https://www.damiensymonds.net/art_vista.html
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