Marie21 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 (edited) Hello! How should I save a file if my clients are going to create a banner for it? I’m not sure what size, they said maybe 6-7 feet, and they think it might be on vinyl. If anyone could help me, I would really appreciate it! Thank you! Edited October 1, 2017 by Marie21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 5:26 PM, Marie21 said: How should I save a file Expand When you say "file" ... do you mean a photo? Or have they asked you to actually design a banner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 1, 2017 Author Share Posted October 1, 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 8:10 PM, Damien Symonds said: When you say "file" ... do you mean a photo? Or have they asked you to actually design a banner? Expand Yes, a photo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Great. In that case, you don't need to do anything. Just provide the photo at the exact size your camera captured it. No cropping, no resizing. Have you finished editing the photo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/1/2017 at 9:07 PM, Damien Symonds said: Great. In that case, you don't need to do anything. Just provide the photo at the exact size your camera captured it. No cropping, no resizing. Have you finished editing the photo? Expand Oh wow.. yes I have. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Terrific. And what are its pixel dimensions? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 5:54 AM, Damien Symonds said: Terrific. And what are its pixel dimensions? Expand 5400x3600 300resolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 5:54 AM, Damien Symonds said: Terrific. And what are its pixel dimensions? Expand Is that ok? Thank you again for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 5:56 AM, Marie21 said: 5400x3600 300resolution Expand That's about nineteen and a half megapixels. Is that correct for your camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:00 AM, Damien Symonds said: That's about nineteen and a half megapixels. Is that correct for your camera? Expand Straight out of my camera it is 5760px x 3840px 72 resolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 What happened to the other pixels???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:00 AM, Damien Symonds said: That's about nineteen and a half megapixels. Is that correct for your camera? Expand I am not sure thats what is correct for my camera.. but that is the image straight out of camera. Then I resized it with all the rest to 18x20in 300 resolution- 5400x3600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:05 AM, Marie21 said: but that is the image straight out of camera. Then I resized it with all the rest to 18x20in 300 resolution- 5400x3600. Expand Oh shit! Oh shit shit shit shit shit shit shit! You must NEVER do this. NEVER resize or crop in ANY way before or during (or after) editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:03 AM, Damien Symonds said: What happened to the other pixels???? Expand I have a Cannon 5dMarkiii On 10/2/2017 at 6:06 AM, Damien Symonds said: Oh shit! Oh shit shit shit shit shit shit shit! You must NEVER do this. NEVER resize or crop in ANY way before or during (or after) editing. Expand AHHH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:06 AM, Damien Symonds said: Oh shit! Oh shit shit shit shit shit shit shit! You must NEVER do this. NEVER resize or crop in ANY way before or during (or after) editing. Expand What should I do? I always heard that your supposed to edit, then resize to around 8x10 or 16x20 and always change it to 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Oh God no. You must NEVER do that. Never sacrifice a single precious pixel that your camera captured. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/02/trash-those-jpegs.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:12 AM, Damien Symonds said: Oh God no. You must NEVER do that. Never sacrifice a single precious pixel that your camera captured. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/02/trash-those-jpegs.html Expand omgosh..Not even change it to 300 resolution? But what if they want to print it and I only give them digitals.. On 10/2/2017 at 6:12 AM, Damien Symonds said: Oh God no. You must NEVER do that. Never sacrifice a single precious pixel that your camera captured. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/02/trash-those-jpegs.html Expand reading now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:12 AM, Damien Symonds said: Oh God no. You must NEVER do that. Never sacrifice a single precious pixel that your camera captured. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/02/trash-those-jpegs.html Expand I almost never crop, ever. Only resize, yikes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 Ok, ok, so let me make sure I know where I blew it. This is my workflow: I do the shoot in Raw format, upload it to my laptop, put it through Lightroom with a preset, upload them in Photoshop and then resize them to usually 16x20, 300 res. I don’t crop them, but I want clients to be able to print them out to at least a 16x20, and also use them online. So, I blew it by resizing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:16 AM, Marie21 said: omgosh..Not even change it to 300 resolution? But what if they want to print it and I only give them digitals.. Expand The PPI is completely irrelevant for digitals. Completely. The only time it matters is if it's a commercial job, and you are providing the files to a graphic designer. For regular people, it matters not a damn. On 10/2/2017 at 6:24 AM, Marie21 said: Ok, ok, so let me make sure I know where I blew it. This is my workflow: I do the shoot in Raw format, upload it to my laptop, put it through Lightroom with a preset, upload them in Photoshop and then resize them to usually 16x20, 300 res. I don’t crop them, but I want clients to be able to print them out to at least a 16x20, and also use them online. So, I blew it by resizing them? Expand Correct. Never resize. However, you MUST crop before handing off the digital files. The 11:15 shape is vital. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/02/selling-digital-images.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:26 AM, Damien Symonds said: However, you MUST crop before handing off the digital files. The 11:15 shape is vital. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/02/selling-digital-images.html Expand Again, this does not apply when the file is going to a graphic designer. DO NOT CROP OR RESIZE in any way if the file is going to a graphic designer. Which this one probably is. Confused yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 10/2/2017 at 6:26 AM, Damien Symonds said: The PPI is completely irrelevant for digitals. Completely. The only time it matters is if it's a commercial job, and you are providing the files to a graphic designer. For regular people, it matters not a damn. Expand So just send it 5760px x 3840px no resolution? Lol Im sorry, Now Im not sure what to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 For ALL photos: Never crop or resize during editing. (Or sharpen - you must NEVER sharpening during your editing workflow, ever.) Then, for MOST photos (which are going to members of the public): Crop to 11:15 shape with no resolution when saving the digital files. But, for a FEW photos (which are likely to be used by a graphic designer, like this one is) make the resolution 300ppi, but don't crop or resize in any way. (To change the PPI without resizing, use the Image Size function, and make sure the "Resample Image" checkbox is not checked.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie21 Posted October 2, 2017 Author Share Posted October 2, 2017 WOW. EYE OPENING!! THANK YOU!!!! On 10/2/2017 at 6:40 AM, Damien Symonds said: For ALL photos: Never crop or resize during editing. (Or sharpen - you must NEVER sharpening during your editing workflow, ever.) Then, for MOST photos (which are going to members of the public): Crop to 11:15 shape with no resolution when saving the digital files. But, for a FEW photos (which are likely to be used by a graphic designer, like this one is) make the resolution 300ppi, but don't crop or resize in any way. (To change the PPI without resizing, use the Image Size function, and make sure the "Resample Image" checkbox is not checked.) Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 This practice is based on the assumption that Graphic Designers, unlike regular members of the public, know how to handle photos for themselves. They can accurately crop and resize them for their exact needs. As it happens, this is largely a false assumption - most graphic designers are complete incompetent nincompoops; however there's a fundamental professional courtesy that requires us to pretend they are competent. Members of the public are, of course, also incompetent nincompoops in matters of digital photo files, but they generally don't pretend to be anything else, and certainly don't try to run graphic design businesses in spite of their incompetence. So no professional courtesy is required - we can wisely provide files that provide the most safety for their needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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