Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 YES!!! but they may want to print it at a 4x6, 5x7, wallet also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Correct! I'm glad your understanding is becoming so strong that you're even jumping ahead of me here. As I said in the article: Quote The most thorough solution would be to prepare multiple copies of each photo, cropped/resized/sharpened for every print size. This would insure against the cropping problem (assuming the customer used the correct version), but would take much longer to prepare the files. It's impractical, right? The client would be so unlikely to use the correct file, and anyway, it would drive you crazy making multiple versions of 78 files. Therefore, the "middle ground" (11:15 crop) is the most practical solution. You finally seem to be grasping this, which is great. There is one more aspect to discuss. Do you acknowledge that there will be a percentage of your photos that need cropping no matter what? Not every photo is perfectly composed in camera, and in fact, it's VERY dangerous to try to do so. It's vitally important to always shoot a little bit loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Yes, it would be impractical! yes to the second ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Excellent. And you understand that you must NEVER crop during the editing process? Neither in raw, nor in Photoshop. Your fully-edited master file must be whole. Every pixel is sacred. https://www.damiensymonds.net/2011/09/cropping-tutorial.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Fantastic. So by extension, you also understand that manual cropping must be part of this output process for client files. There is no way to automate cropping in Photoshop with consideration for individual composition. If you asked Photoshop to automatically crop a batch of photos, it would do so the same way your clueless clients would - that is, it would just take the centre section. As we've already discussed, that is risky. Still with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 still you but if they are at the same ratio, my image is still whole(or still there), right? Maybe just loss of pixels or smaller file size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Sorry, I don't understand the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Like I said before my images are in a 4x6 (actually bigger but same ratio)ratio so if I size them at a 8x 12, it is the still the same ratio, so I am not cropping anything of the image off,: just making it a smaller file size, right? So my image does not look any different to them until they crop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Yes, but we've already established why you can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 48 minutes ago, Rhonda Tjernlund said: Like I said before my images are in a 4x6 (actually bigger but same ratio)ratio so if I size them at a 8x 12, it is the still the same ratio Please don't say "4x6" and "8x12". They are sizes, not ratios. The ratio is 2:3, and that is what's important. Importantly bad, in this case. 49 minutes ago, Rhonda Tjernlund said: Just making it a smaller file size, right? No. You definitely must not make them smaller. Don't impose the 300ppi resolution. Leave the resolution blank, this is SO important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 you are right that 2:3 is the ratio and 4x6 and 8x12 are sizes, excuse me for using them interchangeable. SO you are saying that I SHOULDN'T give my clients digitals at 8x12 at 300 ppi? Is it ok to give them at 8x10 with resolution blank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 No, 11:15 with resolution blank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Tjernlund Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What do you mean, thanks? What did you think I'd been trying to explain to you for the last three hours? Do you get it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 If you do finally get it, you're finally ready for this: https://www.damiensymonds.net/client-photoshop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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