Damien Symonds Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Talk to me, @Mike Comber. In what way does your screen differ from your prints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 First of all, I have a general problem in that I have two monitors that display colors differently, even after calibrating them both with the x-rite i1 pro. Monitor #1 is an integral part of my Dell Inspiron 5720 computer, and monitor #2 is a stand-alone Dell monitor. Both monitors are 27" (not sure that matters much), with maximum resolutions of 3840x2160 (monitor #1) and 1920x1080 (monitor #2). Here is how a particular photo appears on each of the monitors Monitor #1 Monitor #2 As for printing, I have only used my in-home Epson ink-jet printer. Its color rendition is much closer to that of monitor #2, but with a somewhat darker overall appearance. I took a photo of the print in a well-lit room to give you an idea of the comparison. I am printing on matte photo paper rather than glossy - not sure how much difference that makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 First things first, have you done this? https://www.damiensymonds.net/premiercolor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Dell PremierColor was enabled. I've disabled it and am ready to start a recalibration. I have these display settings: White Point: CIE Illuminant D65 Luminance: 80 cd/m2 Gamma Tone Response Curve: sRGB (I previously used Standard, with Gamma set to2.2) Are these OK? What do you suggest for "Adjust for ambient light"? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 23, 2020 Author Share Posted November 23, 2020 Hold on, don't bother recalibrating yet. You can't calibrate until you have some pro lab prints. Go ahead and order those right away. Some info about choosing prints here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Have just ordered some prints (from mPix). Will take about a week to get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I have my prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Wonderful! Ok, go ahead and calibrate. https://www.damiensymonds.net/calibration-instructions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 In your instructions, you list color settings of Warm, Normal and Cool. The first monitor I'm calibrating (a Dell) has color settings of Warm, Standard, Comfort View and Cool. Should I ignore Comfort View and use Standard in place of Normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) My i1 Pro app has screens that differ from the ones you show. The first screen I get after selecting Display Profiling on home page looks like this: If I hover over any element in the Display Settings panel (e.g. White Point, Luminance , or Gamma), so comments on suggested settings show up in the Help panel. Not sure what to do here for these settings. Edited November 30, 2020 by Mike Comber amended text in second sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Sorry for the question above, but I think I'm OK now. I just noticed that there are Basic and an Advanced selection buttons on the Home page. I was on Basic. When I switched to Advanced, I found the selection for checking uniformity and can now follow along with your instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike Comber said: Sorry for the question above, but I think I'm OK now. I just noticed that there are Basic and an Advanced selection buttons on the Home page. I was on Basic. When I switched to Advanced, I found the selection for checking uniformity and can now follow along with your instructions. For the record, my instructions DO tell you to switch to advanced. How did the calibration turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I see the instruction now to switch to Advanced. I found the "warm" color setting on my monitor to give closest to 6500K (actually ranged from 6526-6769K). Process seemed to go smoothly, but not too sure of the end result - the "achieved" white point was 7442K. Maybe I did something wrong and should try again. The curves looked good in that there was no separation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mike Comber said: I found the "warm" color setting on my monitor to give closest to 6500K (actually ranged from 6526-6769K). Process seemed to go smoothly, but not too sure of the end result - the "achieved" white point was 7442K. That sure is odd. Yes, it's most likely you'll need to do it again, with the next coolest preset. But how does the screen-to-print comparison look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Not too bad, colors are fairly close, but images on the monitor appear somewhat brighter. I tried adding a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer in Photoshop and got generally better match with the prints if I reduced brightness somewhat and lowered the contrast by a smaller amount. Does this suggest I should change initial settings for calibration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 Yes, of course. Your brightness setting is too high. Calibrate again at 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 This improved things. I'm pretty happy now with the comparison between monitor and prints. Even got approval from my wife (she's got a much better eye for color than I do). The monitor I calibrated is my second monitor. The monitor that came integral with the computer does not have any manual control over brightness, contrast or colors. I'm not sure how to approach calibration for this. At present, colors are way too vibrant and saturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Treat it as a laptop. Follow my laptop calibration instructions. https://www.damiensymonds.net/calibration-instructions/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Comber Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Have done this, but no significant change. Tried again with luminance reduced to 80, but fundamentally the same result. If there's no way to fix the problem, I'll just used my second (now calibrated) monitor for the color edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted December 1, 2020 Author Share Posted December 1, 2020 Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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