Karlie Kingi Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hi Damien, I have two calibrated screens, I have done print testing through my chosen lab and have printed across all the type of papers they offer. I then printed two sets one as per my configuration and profile I've set up in my ps with my colours space being srgb (I'm working through your course for raw) and then at the request of the lab I've printed a set using their ICC profile. My question both sets look different to my screen my screen is a lot more magenta than that of what's been printed. Prints look the most similar to my profile is closest to screen except are still warmer and their icc is merky and warmer toned. Im am so lost as to what I do next to get it correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Karlie Kingi said: and then at the request of the lab I've printed a set using their ICC profile. Hang on, did they really request that? What did they say, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 I printed a set of prints based on calibrating my screen and working through the raw class I wanted to make sure what I was working with was correct, I got the images back and they were super warm I then queried it with them and they send me a link to add their ICC Profile and requested I used that profile for accurate printing? and then they also said I should be working in 16bit not 8bit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 https://workspace.queensberry.com/downloads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Karlie Kingi said: their ICC Profile and requested I used that profile for accurate printing? How did you "use" it? 16 minutes ago, Karlie Kingi said: and then they also said I should be working in 16bit not 8bit ? That's a load of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 I downloaded thier icc and clicked on it and it dramatically changed my image colours and then didn't even match when I did print through thier icc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Whoa, shit, no, that's NOT how you use a lab profile. This is how you use a lab profile: https://www.damiensymonds.net/2010/03/bit-about-soft-proofing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Ignore the lab profile for now. It's only for photos with very vivid colours. Let's concentrate on what's important. Which calibrator do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 I have a x rite color munki smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Oh shit. Well, that's why you can't get an accurate calibration. Throw that thing in the bin (it's not even worth selling) and get a proper one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 Oh sickening Gave you got any information or resources on recommendations for calibrators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 https://www.damiensymonds.net/which-monitor-calibrator-to-buy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 Thank you so very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I'm sorry it's bad news. For a long time I had an article on my website about the Smile, because I bought one too (for testing purposes). And it was so terrible that I wrote a strongly-worded article warning everyone not to buy it. In my recent overhaul of the website I removed that article because I thought the Smile was safely in the past. I didn't realise it was still haunting some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 I really appreciate your site and every bit of knowledge you provide I'm starting to learn quickly that even walking into a photography shop who sold me the colormunki are just there to sell things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 @Karlie Kingi have you got a new calibrator yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 Hi Damien yes it finally came I ordered it just before our lockdown and arrived this morning super excited I got the Datacolor spyderx elite my plan is to tomorrow calibrate and then do a print test and then continue on with my learning with you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Hooray! But NOOOOOOOOO! You can't calibrate unless you have prints with you! You can't wait until after calibration to get prints. Do you have any prints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlie Kingi Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 I already ran a set of prints pre calibration but then I was under the understanding I was to run another set of prints to then compare them to my calibrated screen or does it no longer matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 No no no. Do you think your lab will change the way they print just because one of their thousands of customers suddenly calibrated? Of course not. Prints are prints. You don't need to get new ones afterwards. The purpose of calibration is to make your screen match the prints you already have. Not just the good ones either. ALL your prints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 @Karlie Kingi is your calibration ok now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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