CCDP-W17

[Damien Symonds]

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Before and after images

At first glance you'd think this screen would be handy, but it's surprisingly useless, so ignore it.

Profile Information

Here you can see how close you got to your targets.  My white point is 6483K, which is very close to my 6500K target, I'm very happy with it.  And 78 is easily close enough to my 80 target for brightness.

(If your achieved white point is further than 200K away from the target, that might be another reason to worry about your screen's quality.)

Profile Curves and Volume

This one is a good at-a-glance guide to the quality of your screen.  The straighter the lines on the graph, the better your screen is.

My screen isn't too bad, but the line does get a tiny bit wavy at the top.

I'm always interested to see these graphs, so I'd love it if you could post a screenshot of yours in the comments below, if you feel like it.

Home

Your calibration is finished.  Now it's time to assess it.

Press "Home":

Print comparison >>

[KimMoore]

 

[KimMoore]

Hi Damien, I have just calibrated.  Would you be happy with this line?  Looks a bit wonky to me....

I have a DELL U2419H

[Damien Symonds]

It's not wonderful, is it?

How's the print comparison?

[KimMoore]

Not great!  My prints are quite yellow.  When my husband gets home I will get him to pop our downlights out, to see if they can change settings.  I feel we put in daylight bulbs.

What is the next step?  Is it new screen time

[Damien Symonds]

So you're saying the screen is colder than the prints?

[KimMoore]

Yes, they are.  I was just looking around in my computer & found this screen with these settings.

If I re-set my screen & have calibrated, they don't look like things that should be turned on to me.

[Damien Symonds]

You're right, that looks like it should all be turned off.

[KimMoore]

I've turned it off & moved the slider left & right on the brightness tab & nothing seems to happen.

[KimMoore]

Do you think I should re-calibrate & try again?

[Damien Symonds]

Yep, for sure.

[KimMoore]

Hi Damien,

I'm going to send a few test prints to Queensberry in their correct colour space, Adobe 1998.  And see if this helps my prints match, I've always sent them in sRGB.

Going forward, if this works, will I need to convert the files I upload onto the web & fb to sRGB, or can I leave them in Adobe 1998?

And my last question, should there be a difference to the eye between the Adobe 1998 & sRGB photo?

[Damien Symonds]

Whoa.  Don't change anything about your workflow.  Still do all your editing in sRGB as usual.

Only convert the print files to Adobe RGB during the output workflow, at the same time as sharpening.

[KimMoore]

Ok, thank you.  I feel like I am going round & round with this colourspace stuff.

When I convert the file to Adobe 1998, will the photo change?  Or will it still look the same to my eye.

[Damien Symonds]

Exactly the same.  No visible change whatsoever.

If you do see a change, you've done something wrong.

[KimMoore]

Ok, thank you that helps.

I'm determined to get my prints to match better & trying to download Queensberry soft proofing profile.  Although I cant seem to add this to my computer.

Would you be able to help with this?

I can't seem to add the QB folder in that colour space drop down menu, there is my calibration.  Or maybe I am in the complete wrong place.

 

Installing Queensberry’s Soft Proofing Profile

In colour management, an ICC profile is a set of data that characterizes a colour input or output device.

Before you can begin soft-proofing you must ensure your screen is calibrated, your photoshop working (colour) space is set up correctly and your other colour settings. Then you must download Queensberry Soft Proofing ICC profile.

You need this profile installed in order to "preview/soft-proof" your image files (ie view them on your monitor as they will appear after we've printed them).

Download the profile from this page and copy it into the Colour Profile folder on your computer.

To do this, in the main finder menu select GO. Hold down option until Library shows up. Open that folder. Find ColorSync and then add the ICC profile to profiles, by dragging it into the folder.

Now that you’ve installed our ICC profile, it’s time to link this profile to your Photoshop soft-proofing settings.

[Damien Symonds]

Whoa, slow down.  You don't need to use that profile until AFTER you've received the prints from them.  Have you done so yet?

[KimMoore]

ok, I'll order them now & let you know when they arrive.

 

[KimMoore]

One last question before I order some prints.

Is there any magic in selecting different colour profiles in ACR?  Or is it purely everyone's different style.

 

[Damien Symonds]

Entirely to taste.

[KimMoore]

On 11/13/2024 at 1:27 PM, Damien Symonds said:

Yep, for sure.

I'm going to re-calibrate tomorrow morning.  If my prints are to warm, should I keep the colour temp as 6500k or change this?

[Damien Symonds]

If your prints are too warm, the first step is to look up.  Are you sure your room light isn't too warm?

[KimMoore]

Hi Damien,

I want to check that this colour space stuff is cemented in my head!

If I edit in sRGB & convert to Adobe 1998 at the end of my workflow, the colours won't change.  But if I edit in Adobe 1998 & convert to sRGB they will?

Thank you, my brain is a bit mush with this & I got my print to match the best they have been.  BUT, I edited the whole process from taking them in my camera to sending the files in Adobe 1998, as Queensberry suggested I give this a try.  🙈

[Damien Symonds]

1 hour ago, KimMoore said:

If I edit in sRGB & convert to Adobe 1998 at the end of my workflow, the colours won't change.

Correct.

1 hour ago, KimMoore said:

But if I edit in Adobe 1998 & convert to sRGB they will?

If any of them are outside the sRGB gamut, yes.  Very vivid colours, that is.