meris Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 here's a 700x700 I have a plaster wall that has gone wobbly as time passed. There are places where it's not smooth, and I see grooves like this. How would I fix it? Because it's not a simple gradient. I've tried the patch tool, sometimes it works. Sometimes the edges of the patching gets a halo, and I duno why. Sometimes maybe from the noise, I get posterisation of the area I patched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 May I see the whole photo as well, for context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) This is the wall, a four way cyc The light stripe you see in the top left is actually from a fold in the plaster The around corners have the biggest problems with random scratches and stuff I also very find it very hard to edit this wall because it's hard to see all the issues after staring at grey for a while. I have to come back to it several times over several days Because it's a small space I can't have people far enough away from the back to hide the issues Edited April 25, 2017 by meris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ok, thanks. And may I see an actual photo you've taken (with a subject in it), before and after your wall fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Sometimes these waves come if I edit then see another issue and edit again. Sometimes the halo appears and I keep patching the edges of it and see if it goes before I reach the subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 I'm thinking make separate gradients and blend them into each area. What do you think? Like the blanket fade but not quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So you want to keep the box shape of the background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 Not especially, but when you can see the ground or sidewalls I want it to look like a real background and not something I dropped in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 Ok. I'd asked for two versions of the photo - both before and after your fix. That would really help me if you could provide it, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 There's no after because I'm not happy with anything other than full replacement of bg where it's a half body All the parts in the last post are from attempts to change it which didn't work because of the artefacts you can see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 The only way to do this properly is to replace the background altogether. https://www.damiensymonds.net/preventing-banding-in-backdrops/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Some other recent examples here, here and here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 26, 2017 Author Share Posted April 26, 2017 Using the dither option on the gradient, how do I combine that with the noise layer? Should I use both or just one or the other? Because I will apply the noise layer to parts that I do not change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 The noise layer is clipped to the gradient layer. Therefore, it is automatically applied to the parts you change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 How did you go with yours? What did you think of mine? @tracyandrade, this one is relevant to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 The edit is good, and faster than patching. I'm just wondering about how to fix my wall. No point having a cyc if you have to edit each one. Of course I"ll get it smoothed, but is there a min. radius to avoid reflections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, meris said: I'm just wondering about how to fix my wall. No point having a cyc if you have to edit each one. What's a cyc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 cyclorama wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Can you link me to images that other people have produced, using a cyclorama wall? Yours seriously just looks like a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 I don't have the space. If I had 5x the width and depth it'd look like http://kidona.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DSC5070-Edit.jpg http://i.vimeocdn.com/video/103288090_1280x720.jpg http://cdn.goodgallery.com/fe4824d3-2a84-460a-a23b-a26f28947ad1/r/0800/1x6o0vmt/hattie-cyc-wall.jpg https://format-com-cld-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/s--kVzhityf--/c_limit,g_center,h_1200,w_65535/a_auto,fl_keep_iptc.progressive,q_95/395696-20072044-9911-20131123-122005-Edit_jpg2.jpg It should kinda just fade off and not draw attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Right, that's exactly what I thought. You have to replace your background every single time. There is no other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Now that I've seen what you like, I've had another go: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meris Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Looks good. How much of the back was replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 All of it, of course. Hold on, I'll upload the PSD ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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