meris Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 here's a 700x700 I have a plaster wall that has gone wobbly as time passed. There are places where it's not smooth, and I see grooves like this. How would I fix it? Because it's not a simple gradient. I've tried the patch tool, sometimes it works. Sometimes the edges of the patching gets a halo, and I duno why. Sometimes maybe from the noise, I get posterisation of the area I patched.
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 May I see the whole photo as well, for context?
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) This is the wall, a four way cyc The light stripe you see in the top left is actually from a fold in the plaster The around corners have the biggest problems with random scratches and stuff I also very find it very hard to edit this wall because it's hard to see all the issues after staring at grey for a while. I have to come back to it several times over several days Because it's a small space I can't have people far enough away from the back to hide the issues Edited April 25, 2017 by meris
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Ok, thanks. And may I see an actual photo you've taken (with a subject in it), before and after your wall fix?
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 Sometimes these waves come if I edit then see another issue and edit again. Sometimes the halo appears and I keep patching the edges of it and see if it goes before I reach the subjects.
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 I'm thinking make separate gradients and blend them into each area. What do you think? Like the blanket fade but not quite
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 So you want to keep the box shape of the background?
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 Not especially, but when you can see the ground or sidewalls I want it to look like a real background and not something I dropped in.
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Ok. I'd asked for two versions of the photo - both before and after your fix. That would really help me if you could provide it, thanks.
meris Posted April 25, 2017 Author Posted April 25, 2017 There's no after because I'm not happy with anything other than full replacement of bg where it's a half body All the parts in the last post are from attempts to change it which didn't work because of the artefacts you can see
Damien Symonds Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 The only way to do this properly is to replace the background altogether. https://www.damiensymonds.net/preventing-banding-in-backdrops/
Damien Symonds Posted April 26, 2017 Posted April 26, 2017 Some other recent examples here, here and here.
meris Posted April 26, 2017 Author Posted April 26, 2017 Using the dither option on the gradient, how do I combine that with the noise layer? Should I use both or just one or the other? Because I will apply the noise layer to parts that I do not change
Damien Symonds Posted April 26, 2017 Posted April 26, 2017 The noise layer is clipped to the gradient layer. Therefore, it is automatically applied to the parts you change.
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 How did you go with yours? What did you think of mine? @tracyandrade, this one is relevant to you.
meris Posted April 27, 2017 Author Posted April 27, 2017 The edit is good, and faster than patching. I'm just wondering about how to fix my wall. No point having a cyc if you have to edit each one. Of course I"ll get it smoothed, but is there a min. radius to avoid reflections?
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 1 minute ago, meris said: I'm just wondering about how to fix my wall. No point having a cyc if you have to edit each one. What's a cyc?
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Can you link me to images that other people have produced, using a cyclorama wall? Yours seriously just looks like a box.
meris Posted April 27, 2017 Author Posted April 27, 2017 I don't have the space. If I had 5x the width and depth it'd look like http://kidona.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DSC5070-Edit.jpg http://i.vimeocdn.com/video/103288090_1280x720.jpg http://cdn.goodgallery.com/fe4824d3-2a84-460a-a23b-a26f28947ad1/r/0800/1x6o0vmt/hattie-cyc-wall.jpg https://format-com-cld-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/s--kVzhityf--/c_limit,g_center,h_1200,w_65535/a_auto,fl_keep_iptc.progressive,q_95/395696-20072044-9911-20131123-122005-Edit_jpg2.jpg It should kinda just fade off and not draw attention
Damien Symonds Posted April 27, 2017 Posted April 27, 2017 Right, that's exactly what I thought. You have to replace your background every single time. There is no other way.
Damien Symonds Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 Now that I've seen what you like, I've had another go:
meris Posted April 28, 2017 Author Posted April 28, 2017 Looks good. How much of the back was replaced?
Damien Symonds Posted April 28, 2017 Posted April 28, 2017 All of it, of course. Hold on, I'll upload the PSD ...
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