Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Okay... hope this is what you were looking for. I just use the jpegs. Let me know if I need to save the RAW instead. Used the Godox 600 bare for these. The last two I just tried my Canon 430 exii flash for comparison b/c I need to use something at my shoot on Wed morning. Did spot first and then eval - Left on AWB 1/200 and ISO 100 Canon 24-70 lens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Adding this link so I don't lose it. It may help but I am not going to buy until we figure it out. https://flashgels.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Brian said: Ok. Then her flashes are suspect. Traditionally, Flashes are supposed to be 5500-6000K range. No, her flashes aren't suspect. It's just that she was shooting in light MUCH colder than 5500-6000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Mary Burgy said: This guy shoots in the shade too and I know he doesn't use gels. He typically uses an AB and barely does any work post. Does he have this issue? I am just trying to see what some pros that I am familiar with do. His flash seems to be much lower power than yours? Also, his white balance is shit. I'm sure the little girl's coat is suppose to be at least white, if not cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: No, her flashes aren't suspect. It's just that she was shooting in light MUCH colder than 5500-6000. Damien will I be in trouble if I shoot with it in the area I showed above? I can’t get a fix in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Mary Burgy said: Maybe I could just aim to flat light them so the light hits them evenly? This. For the love of God, this. And lower the power. Or move the flash further away, or whatever. 6 minutes ago, Mary Burgy said: Damien will I be in trouble if I shoot with it in the area I showed above? I can’t get a fix in time. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Okay. I will aim to flat light and less power then and hope for the best. I was just attempting to expose for the bg and not blow the highlights and as a result needed more flash power. maybe Brian can determine if one flash is cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, Mary Burgy said: Brian can determine if one flash is cooler I like the light coming from the Canon Flash. It's more neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Could you determine if my flashes were firing too warm? Did the test show anything? If in shade, do you agree I should buy the gels I linked above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, Damien Symonds said: It's just that she was shooting in light MUCH colder than 5500-6000. @Damien Symonds -- Then you tell me what is wrong. I'm out of ideas. Seriously. What I'm seeing is the light from the Godox in her samples is a tad bit on the warm side. Just look at the white on her large WB thing, the Canon flash produces a brighter whiter light that is different than the light coming from the Godox. As far as White Balance, I was taught that you set it for your main light, in this case it's flash. You are coming at it from an editing point of view, which is fine. From what I've seen, I'm not digging her Godox lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mary Burgy said: should buy the gels I linked above? It's worth a shot. Try using more of a blue gel instead of orange to compensate for your warm Godox Lights and to match the ambient light that you are shooting in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 Well I just paid $750 for the Godox light... so I am kind of stuck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I see no reason to think that there's anything wrong with the Godox light. It is what it is. Like all flashes, it's made for studio, I guess. It's not made to match the rapidly cooling light of outdoor evenings. 5 minutes ago, Brian said: @Damien Symonds -- Then you tell me what is wrong. I'm out of ideas. Seriously. I don't think anything is wrong, as such. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 I was under the impression it was meant more for outdoors. That is why I got it... for the power. Thanks for both of your help. Hopefully I can order the gels and it will fix the issue when shooting in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Brian, why has nobody yet made LED flash lighting where you can change the temperature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 They do, but it's a constant led light, not a flash. StudioFX Photo Video Studio Variable Color Temp 600 LED Bi Color Video Light Panel CN-600CSA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4LM7GI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_LswhAbG865EZF That's just one example. From my own personal experience, those led lights are meant for video and often don't have the "umph" to overpower the Sun / Ambient light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 15 hours ago, Mary Burgy said: I was under the impression it was meant more for outdoors. That is why I got it... for the power. You are correct in your thinking. The problem is the light itself and it's "personality" or quirks. It all boils down to knowing your gear and fiddling. Since it's so off, I would use your WB collapsible panel in addition to Damien's print out. You are going to need extra help until you figure out your groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I do like the quality of light coming out of the Godox light vs your Canon Flash. It's way more even and less "Flashy." We just need to figure out how to manage the Godox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Burgy Posted November 28, 2017 Author Share Posted November 28, 2017 That makes me feel better. Tomorrow I will use the flash though since I will be in the shade. I ordered the gels so I will cross my fingers they fix my problem of shooting in the shade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 That's good to hear. You just need to practice with the light. It seems that this light is not a run-and-gun light. There seems to be a learning curve. I would use AWB and stop with the "Set it to _______ and fix it in post..." thinking. Just to see if you get better results. You can always go back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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