Falon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hi Brian I’m looking at purchasing a new canon camera body. My canon 7D has focus issues. It’s so hit and miss and driving me nuts, so before I send it away I was hoping to purchase a new body so then I have got a spare. Can you recommend a few good ones I can look into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 We will need to start off with your current lens line-up and what kind of budget do you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 These are my lens EF 24-105 EF 70-200 EF 50 EF 100 EFS 10-22 which I’m aware wont work on a full frame camera which I’m all good about. Budget maybe around the $3000 mark. I’m not really sure I just need it to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 @Brian just checking you haven’t missed this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Symonds Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Sorry Falon, Brian is on a holiday at the moment (and he told me his holiday destination was likely to be in the path of Hurricane Sally) so he's not visiting the forum as often as usual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 That’s ok I did think he may have been on holidays all good I can wait, was checking he didn’t miss my reply. Thank you for letting me know ☺️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 I'm back. My Holiday...It was Windy. OK, so you mostly have Full Frame Lenses, so no worries there. Now it's time to talk budget. At this point, you could go up to a used 5D Mark III that's in good shape or a 5D Mark IV. Unless you want to stay with a crop body. The reason is the angle of view is different and you won't get that "Magnifying Effect" or "Crop Factor" as you would with a Crop Camera, like your Canon 7D. If you shoot wildlife such as birds, this might be an issue because 200mm on a full frame, will be 200mm instead of acting like 320mm. Now, I get it...optically 200mm is 200m...200mm is still 200mm, it's just the Angle of View Change happens at the sensor, since it's smaller on a crop body. Meaning, your 24-105 will be "Wider" than what you are used to at the 24mm end. Make sense? Right now your 24-105 acts like a 38.4mm - 168mm. (Canon Crop Factor: Focal Length x 1.6). So you may not need to go rush out and get a 11-24 L Lens, your 24-105 might work better for you. So you have full frame glass, so your overall overhead won't be too bad. You can upgrade to anything that you want. This is good news because if all you had was crop lenses, like your 10-22, then we are talking over $5000+ to switch to Full Frame. Now, you can go in any direction. So I guess it boils down to what you shoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 The main things I take photos of is children, families and landscape. I do enjoy taking photos of birds but I don’t do it a lot. I would like to purchase new as I worry about used cameras and how they have been treated. I think I’d like to go with a full frame camera as I will send my 7d away to have it looked at and hopefully will still have it if it’s worth repairing. I’m just hating it a lot at the moment as the focus is so hit and miss. What are your thoughts on mirrorless cameras? I haven't really looked into them as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The Canon 7D, especially the Mark I, was notorious for focusing issues. They do have a Canon 7D Mark II version, which is around $1400 or so. (US Dollars.) For a new Full Frame Body, you are looking at a Canon 5D Mark IV, which should be around $2500. Personally, I would upgrade to full frame. Once you go Full Frame, it's tough to go back to Crop. Mirrorless...it's all the rage with the Measurebators. It gives people who write blogs about cameras something to write about and YouTube personalities something to talk about. While there are adapters to make your lenses compatible with a Mirrorless Body, in reality it's sometimes better to get the Mirrorless lenses to go with the bodies in order to take advantage of all the camera's features. I will say this, I am interested in Mirrorless, but I'm also waiting. Sales of Mirrorless aren't as great as Marketing makes things out to be, and DSLRs are still being sold. Plus, I really don't want to buy a Mirrorless Version of the Nikon 24-70 f/2.8 to go with a Nikon Mirrorless Body as that will make it my 3rd 24-70. This Shit gets expensive, so I'm waiting. Hopefully a Pro-Grade Mirrorless Body will be released soon. For the Canon side, the Canon EOS R6 looks interesting, and is the same price as a 5D Mark IV. I'd check YouTube for some reviews, and take things with a grain-of-salt, then make a decision. Either way I'd recommend Full Frame be your next purchase. Keep in mind you might have to purchase extra batteries and remote cables, plus memory cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) I’m def going to upgrade to the 5D mark lV. But I was considering also purchasing the 7D mark ll in a few months time depending on what they say about my 7D once I send it away for repairs. Does the mark ll have the same horrid focus problem? The reason Im considering this is so I still had a crop camera and I then have a spare. Do you think I’m crazy and shouldn’t bother? Do you think I’ll find it hard switching between both? I just thought that way I could still use my EF-S 10-22 and if I wanted that extra zoom when using my 70-200 I could still have that as well. Edited September 22, 2020 by Falon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 I will also have a look at the R6 to before purchasing the 5D to see which one I’d prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 One other thing I’d like to ask is if you know of any problems people have had with the 5D mark IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Falon said: if you know of any problems people have had with the 5D mark IV. Your Google search is as good as mine. I'm a Nikon shooter. The main thing with the Canon Cameras is to not use a CF Card and a SD Card together. Canon likes to cut corners to save costs, and if you use a SD card at the same time as a CF card, the CF card's write speed slows down to match the slower SD Card Slot. So for the best performance, use a CF card only in a 5D Mark Whatever. From the quick search that I did about the 5D Mark IV, it seems the majority of problems people are complaining about is when it comes to video. I also saw a AF ON button issue, when pressed, it sometimes locks up the camera. But I'm thinking this is a problem with the body, bad switch as it were. It doesn't seem to have the focus problems like your 7D. 9 hours ago, Falon said: Does the mark ll have the same horrid focus problem? Yes. But there seems to be a firmware update that helps this. That said, there are a lot of threads / articles about the poor performance in the focusing dept. with both the 7D Mark I and Mark II. In reality, I'd avoid both of those bodies. Spending money to have them fixed out of warranty, which they should have worked in the damn first place, with no guarantees of things working correctly even after it's "fixed," is like throwing money away, in my humble opinion. But that's your call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 9 hours ago, Falon said: I will also have a look at the R6 to before purchasing the 5D to see which one I’d prefer This is going to be a tough one. Personally, I would try to find one in real life and hold one. Mirrorless bodies are A LOT Smaller than DSLR Bodies. If you do go the R6 route and can't hold one prior, make sure the place you buy from has a great return policy and use the camera right away. Meaning, don't get it on a Tuesday and wait until the Weekend to test it out. If you don't like it, you don't want to cut into a 14 day return policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Thank you so much for your help I decided to go with the 5D mark IV. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 @Falon: Came across this video on YouTube this evening. I'd give it a watch: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I'd also give this video a watch as well. Of course, this particular video is favoring the Mirrorless Body for taking video, which makes sense since it's newer technology. If you are primarily taking actual photographs, they recommend the Canon 5D Mark IV. Plus, as I've stated above, and they implied this in the video, to get the best performance out of a Mirrorless Body, you need the Mirrorless-based lenses to go with it. Sure you can use an adapter ring, but in reality, you are buying all new lenses to go with a Mirrorless Body. Since you already have great glass, why bother forking out another $6000+? So my vote & recommendation for you is a 5D Mark IV. Enjoy your purchase. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Oh, and if you are wondering what's next? When you get your new camera, LEARN ALL OF YOUR FOCUS MODES!! Don't worry about fancy editing and toys with your camera. Learn the focus modes. All of them. Know which ones to use and when, and know which modes to avoid due to your shooting style. Then start playing with all the menus and such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falon Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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