Damien Symonds

Both equally perfect, I assure you. Can you show us some "real" photos where you've noticed a problem?

That focus is exquisite to me!

Then that suggests that there was a problem with the printing of the last batch, doesn't it? A problem at the lab end, I mean? Well, I guess your new test prints will help confirm that.

Well, what about the older prints? Are you getting a better screen-to-print match with them than with the last batch?

Huh? I thought you said you'd finally got a calibration that gave you a print match?

Oh wow Jamie, that's amazing!!!!!!!! I love it!

Well, it would be a good idea to get their soft-proofing profiles and check that, I guess.

Well, don't thank me too enthusiastically too soon. This won't be an easy job at all. Add a Solid Color layer of this colour: R64 G82 B125 Then set that layer to "Linear Burn" blend mode. Then start masking. Very very very carefully.

How about this?

More information? Can you show me the colour you'd like?

Is this what you had in mind, @Beachbum?

Oh, that annoying thing. It's just a glitch, and doesn't usually happen twice in a row. Recalibration should solve it. No, definitely not. The profiles will be VERY different, because the screens are VERY different. It's Monday here. I live in the future, remember?

At least you know you can edit on the laptop screen right away, if there is any editing that urgently needs doing.

Yep, if 0 is working, leave it there for sure. In some cases, even 0 isn't low enough. https://www.damiensymonds.net/desktop-monitor-brightness Let's leave it at Native for now, I think. Yes, but not just that! Your photos will look too cold anywhere on the world wide web too. The WWW uses sRGB as its standard, as you well know, and sRGB is a D65 colour space. That's why most labs have sensibly moved to D65 in the last couple of decades.

I just remembered that you use Millers, which do use D50. So maybe your room light is ok after all. This is wonderful news! It would have been disappointing to have to spend on a new calibrator. Well, maybe D50 as well? Have you tried that yet?

Too-warm room lighting makes prints look too warm, which makes the screen look too cold in comparison.

Yes. But gee this is pointing towards too-warm room lighting.

Ok, now follow the troubleshooting to try to correct the coolness.

The prints. Only the prints.

Correct. Treat this as a completely new calibration.

Great.

No, right now I want you to calibrate the laptop screen. Let's see if it gets any closer. If the problem is exactly the same, that would suggest the calibrator is faulty.

Sorry, by "vivid" I meant "oversaturated". Ok, and you've followed the troubleshooting part of my instructions to try to deal with this?

You can't keep saying that. You're approaching this all wrong. You can't say "The prints yada yada yada". You MUST express it in terms of the screen. The screen is the variable here. So, to clarify, the screen is too cold, and its colours are too vivid?

Well, I think it's definitely something we should explore. Is it daytime where you are? Can you let some light flood in through the windows and compare your prints in it?